hi, everyone, I personally would really like the touch ID as well. I wish they 
would bring it back and as someone said, they could put it on the power button. 
Thanks. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!

> On Sep 5, 2022, at 11:55 AM, Dennis Long <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I like the finger print much better.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Lynn 
> Schneider
> Sent: Monday, September 5, 2022 9:40 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Face ID hit or miss
> 
> Attention has always been off, as I was instructed by others on this list to 
> do back when I first got my phone about eight months ago or so. Believe me, I 
> have tried everything. I don’t mind face ID, but I had better success with 
> the fingerprint, that’s for sure.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 5, 2022, at 2:30 AM, Pete Nalda <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> For what it’s worth, there is a setting to not require attention for Face 
>> ID that makes it more forgiving. 
>> 
>> Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda 
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>>>> On Sep 4, 2022, at 8:35 PM, SoonerAnnie <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks, all, for the replies and suggestions. I set mine up in a room 
>>> where there was good light, using VoiceOver, but my sighted husband was 
>>> standing behind me and he said it got a good scan of my face. Since I tried 
>>> the suggestion of holding my phone at arms length from my face I have had 
>>> much better luck. I most definitely prefer touch ID as you can even do that 
>>> without having to pick up your phone, but I'm getting more used to the face 
>>> ID. I have too much on my phone to leave it wide open, although it has been 
>>> tempting in the past. 
>>> 
>>> Ann
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 4, 2022, at 6:09 PM, Carolyn <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I went out in bright sunlight, but some people say that is absolutely not 
>>>> necessary. Since the guy at Wal-Mart could not do it, I wondered at the 
>>>> time, if light had something to do with it. Now, I simply do not know why 
>>>> we could not get it done at Wal-Mart. 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
>>>> Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt
>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 4, 2022 6:02 PM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: Face ID hit or miss
>>>> 
>>>> I wonder if where one is when they initially set up face ID would make a 
>>>> diference? I know it is not supposed to make that much of a difference,  
>>>> but I do wonder.  When I get a modern phone and want to set up face ID, I 
>>>> will go outside, not in direct sunlight, but using outside light. Some 
>>>> people seem to have little problem using it, others just can't seem to 
>>>> make it work consistently. Maybe it is like those ocr programs, that only 
>>>> can do as well as the scan they are given. Maybe some who have a problem 
>>>> with it gave their phone a not so good scan of their face to start with. I 
>>>> know voice over said it was okay, but maybe a better scan would work 
>>>> better. This is just speculation on my part, I don't have a modern phone 
>>>> with which to experiment.  
>>>> 
>>>> Arnold Schmidt
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 4, 2022, at 5:35 PM, Lynn Schneider <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I would say face ID works for me about 50% of the time. for reasons 
>>>> unclear to me, sometimes it will just completely not recognize my face and 
>>>> I have to reset it. One thing that has helped me is to also set up the 
>>>> alternate face ID so that essentially, it has two copies of my face. I 
>>>> know people say that it should not matter if you are in a light or dark 
>>>> environment, but in my very dark bedroom, it rarely recognizes my face. it 
>>>> certainly has gotten a lot better with practice, but I don’t have quite 
>>>> the luck that Sieghard has had, despite setting mine up per the 
>>>> instructions given on this list about six months ago.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 4, 2022, at 4:14 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Why don't  you use Face Id, for me it works better than Touch Id ever did, 
>>>> but of course that is partly because I do at time use my hands for 
>>>> physical labour like woodworking, gardening and so on and whenever I put 
>>>> in a day in my woodworking shop I could forget Touch Id for the next 2 or 
>>>> 3 days until either the glue came off my fingers and/or all the little 
>>>> cuts and scraps had heeled. Face Id is actually more secure than Touch Id 
>>>> and it works for me I would say about 96 or 98% of the time. I do have th 
>>>> attention feature turned off I should add, it makes it maybe slightly less 
>>>> secure, but both my eyes are prosthetic and I often do not have them in at 
>>>> night. I have no issue with Face I d with the attention feature enabled, 
>>>> but it will not work if it doesn't see the eyes whereas it works just fine 
>>>> even in absolute darkness with that feature disabled..
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> 
>>>> Sieghard
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf 
>>>> Of Esther Levegnale
>>>> Sent: Sunday, September 4, 2022 9:37 AM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: Face ID hit or miss
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> on my old phones with home buttons, I really enjoyed touch ID. I 
>>>> don't think there is such a thing now with the newer phones that 
>>>> don't have a home button. I just use a pass code. Esther
>>>> 
>>>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>     On Sep 3, 2022, at 10:47 PM, Joshua Hendrickson <[email protected] 
>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>     It will take some practice before you will feel comfortable with face
>>>>     ID.  I honestly prefer touch ID myself, but I am getting used to face
>>>>     ID.
>>>> 
>>>>>     On 9/3/22, Anthony Vece <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>         I would imagine that if this is a brand-new phone for the 
>>>> first few days or
>>>> 
>>>>         so it would asked for your password more often than Face 
>>>> ID. This is so that
>>>> 
>>>>         everything could stick to get it. However the suggestions 
>>>> you receivedmake
>>>> 
>>>>         sense. Keep us posted.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>         Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>             On Sep 3, 2022, at 8:10 PM, Nimer Jaber 
>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>             
>>>> 
>>>>             Hello,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>             A couple of things to try:
>>>> 
>>>>             * Try holding it at arms-length away from your face, 
>>>> straight out in front
>>>> 
>>>>             of you.
>>>> 
>>>>             * If you are wearing glasses, try with them off.
>>>> 
>>>>             * If you did not register face ID that way, try registering it 
>>>> again.
>>>> 
>>>>             * Try using a microfiber cloth to wipe off the screen. 
>>>> Sometimes, skin
>>>> 
>>>>             oils can cause interference, if you hold the phone up 
>>>> to your ear while on
>>>> 
>>>>             a call.
>>>> 
>>>>             * Note that, on device reboot, you will certainly need 
>>>> to enter your pin
>>>> 
>>>>             again.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>             If none of these things help, I would probably go back 
>>>> to where you bought
>>>> 
>>>>             it, or reach out to Apple, as it may be a hardware issue.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>                 On Sat, Sep 3, 2022 at 4:15 PM SoonerAnnie 
>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>                 Hi all,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>                 Subject pretty much says it all. I just bought an 
>>>> iPhone 13 mini and have
>>>> 
>>>>                 set up Face ID with no difficulty; however, it 
>>>> seems that it'll work two
>>>> 
>>>>                 or three times and then will require me to use my 
>>>> pass code to unlock my
>>>> 
>>>>                 phone. I am getting very tempted to put my SIM card back 
>>>> in my SE 20 lol.
>>>> 
>>>>                 It's much easier to just reach over and unlock it 
>>>> with my finger than to
>>>> 
>>>>                 pick up my mini and hope I can get it to unlock 
>>>> without having to type in
>>>> 
>>>>                 my pass code. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks 
>>>> for reading.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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