Have you had a sighted friend or family member who is somewhat technically 
knowledgeable help you with this? I would be curious if somebody were to watch 
you as you do this what they would notice. 

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mária 
Orovcíková
Sent: Monday, September 5, 2022 6:16 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Face ID hit or miss

Hello,
I have been using Iphone XR and I have never been able to unlock it with Face 
ID.
I've tried to set it up and remove it a few times, it does not work for me, so 
I gave it up.
I wish Apple would bring Touch ID back for all Iphone models. I don't like 
Passcode, but have no other choice for now.
Maria

Dňa 5. 9. 2022 o 3:35 SoonerAnnie napísal(a):
> Thanks, all, for the replies and suggestions. I set mine up in a room where 
> there was good light, using VoiceOver, but my sighted husband was standing 
> behind me and he said it got a good scan of my face. Since I tried the 
> suggestion of holding my phone at arms length from my face I have had much 
> better luck. I most definitely prefer touch ID as you can even do that 
> without having to pick up your phone, but I'm getting more used to the face 
> ID. I have too much on my phone to leave it wide open, although it has been 
> tempting in the past.
>
> Ann
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 4, 2022, at 6:09 PM, Carolyn <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> I went out in bright sunlight, but some people say that is absolutely not 
>> necessary. Since the guy at Wal-Mart could not do it, I wondered at the 
>> time, if light had something to do with it. Now, I simply do not know why we 
>> could not get it done at Wal-Mart.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
>> Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt
>> Sent: Sunday, September 4, 2022 6:02 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: Face ID hit or miss
>>
>> I wonder if where one is when they initially set up face ID would make a 
>> diference? I know it is not supposed to make that much of a difference,  but 
>> I do wonder.  When I get a modern phone and want to set up face ID, I will 
>> go outside, not in direct sunlight, but using outside light. Some people 
>> seem to have little problem using it, others just can't seem to make it work 
>> consistently. Maybe it is like those ocr programs, that only can do as well 
>> as the scan they are given. Maybe some who have a problem with it gave their 
>> phone a not so good scan of their face to start with. I know voice over said 
>> it was okay, but maybe a better scan would work better. This is just 
>> speculation on my part, I don't have a modern phone with which to experiment.
>>
>> Arnold Schmidt
>>
>> Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 2
>>
>> On Sep 4, 2022, at 5:35 PM, Lynn Schneider <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> 
>> I would say face ID works for me about 50% of the time. for reasons unclear 
>> to me, sometimes it will just completely not recognize my face and I have to 
>> reset it. One thing that has helped me is to also set up the alternate face 
>> ID so that essentially, it has two copies of my face. I know people say that 
>> it should not matter if you are in a light or dark environment, but in my 
>> very dark bedroom, it rarely recognizes my face. it certainly has gotten a 
>> lot better with practice, but I don’t have quite the luck that Sieghard has 
>> had, despite setting mine up per the instructions given on this list about 
>> six months ago.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>>     On Sep 4, 2022, at 4:14 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <[email protected]> wrote:
>>     
>>     
>>
>>     
>>
>>     Why don't  you use Face Id, for me it works better than Touch Id ever 
>> did, but of course that is partly because I do at time use my hands for 
>> physical labour like woodworking, gardening and so on and whenever I put in 
>> a day in my woodworking shop I could forget Touch Id for the next 2 or 3 
>> days until either the glue came off my fingers and/or all the little cuts 
>> and scraps had heeled. Face Id is actually more secure than Touch Id and it 
>> works for me I would say about 96 or 98% of the time. I do have th attention 
>> feature turned off I should add, it makes it maybe slightly less secure, but 
>> both my eyes are prosthetic and I often do not have them in at night. I have 
>> no issue with Face I d with the attention feature enabled, but it will not 
>> work if it doesn't see the eyes whereas it works just fine even in absolute 
>> darkness with that feature disabled..
>>
>>      
>>
>>      
>>
>>     Best regards,
>>
>>     Sieghard
>>
>>      
>>
>>     From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of 
>> Esther Levegnale
>>     Sent: Sunday, September 4, 2022 9:37 AM
>>     To: [email protected]
>>     Subject: Re: Face ID hit or miss
>>
>>      
>>
>>     on my old phones with home buttons, I really enjoyed touch ID. I 
>> don't think there is such a thing now with the newer phones that 
>> don't have a home button. I just use a pass code. Esther
>>
>>     Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!
>>
>>     
>>     
>>     
>>
>>         On Sep 3, 2022, at 10:47 PM, Joshua Hendrickson <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:
>>
>>         It will take some practice before you will feel comfortable with 
>> face
>>         ID.  I honestly prefer touch ID myself, but I am getting used to face
>>         ID.
>>         
>>         On 9/3/22, Anthony Vece <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
>> > wrote:
>>         
>>         
>>
>>             I would imagine that if this is a brand-new phone for the 
>> first few days or
>>
>>             so it would asked for your password more often than Face 
>> ID. This is so that
>>
>>             everything could stick to get it. However the suggestions 
>> you receivedmake
>>
>>             sense. Keep us posted.
>>
>>              
>>
>>             Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro!!
>>
>>              
>>
>>                 On Sep 3, 2022, at 8:10 PM, Nimer Jaber 
>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:
>>
>>                  
>>
>>                 
>>
>>                 Hello,
>>
>>                  
>>
>>                 A couple of things to try:
>>
>>                 * Try holding it at arms-length away from your face, 
>> straight out in front
>>
>>                 of you.
>>
>>                 * If you are wearing glasses, try with them off.
>>
>>                 * If you did not register face ID that way, try registering 
>> it again.
>>
>>                 * Try using a microfiber cloth to wipe off the 
>> screen. Sometimes, skin
>>
>>                 oils can cause interference, if you hold the phone up 
>> to your ear while on
>>
>>                 a call.
>>
>>                 * Note that, on device reboot, you will certainly 
>> need to enter your pin
>>
>>                 again.
>>
>>                  
>>
>>                 If none of these things help, I would probably go 
>> back to where you bought
>>
>>                 it, or reach out to Apple, as it may be a hardware issue.
>>
>>                  
>>
>>                     On Sat, Sep 3, 2022 at 4:15 PM SoonerAnnie 
>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:
>>
>>                     Hi all,
>>
>>                      
>>
>>                     Subject pretty much says it all. I just bought an 
>> iPhone 13 mini and have
>>
>>                     set up Face ID with no difficulty; however, it 
>> seems that it'll work two
>>
>>                     or three times and then will require me to use my 
>> pass code to unlock my
>>
>>                     phone. I am getting very tempted to put my SIM card back 
>> in my SE 20 lol.
>>
>>                     It's much easier to just reach over and unlock it 
>> with my finger than to
>>
>>                     pick up my mini and hope I can get it to unlock 
>> without having to type in
>>
>>                     my pass code. Any suggestions would be appreciated. 
>> Thanks for reading.
>>
>>                      
>>
>>                      
>>
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