Hi Mary,
Interesting. My air, till I downgraded, was just fine on 10, and that's the 
same age  as your mini 2. Wonder why they don't perform the same way?



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From: Mary Otten  <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Date: Friday, October 28, 2016 8:40 pm
Subject: Re: Question on iPad mini

>
>
> I have a mini too. Now I am sure your grandkids are not going to be using 
> voiceover, and maybe that will help. The mini two is getting slow. It still 
> works, although I feel confident that it has just seen its last update. I 
> feel sure that when the new iOS comes out next year, the mini two will not be 
> on board. Can't prove it of course. I also understand that you probably don't 
> want to buy a really expensive thing for kids, depending on how old they are 
> and how will they take care of stuff. But the mini four should have more 
> years of upgrade in it than the mini twoo, at least one more year. And there 
> might be good deals on that coming down the line.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Oct 28, 2016, at 11:46 AM, Mr. Ed <[email protected]> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi Sieghard,
> > Thanks for the info. Having all that info help me a lot to give information 
> > to my daughter in law. She is looking at buying the kids a couple iPad Mini 
> > 2. They have new ones at Best Buy for $219.99. There is not a lot of 
> > different between the 2,3, and 4. The 2 has a A7 chip and the 4 has an a8.
> > Once again thanks for the info.
> > Ed
> >  
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
> > Of Sieghard Weitzel
> > Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 10:41 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: RE: Question on iPad mini
> >  
> > Hi Ed,
> >  
> > If you ever want information about the models and release dates of iDevices 
> > just Google, to use your example of the iPad: "iPad Mini models and release 
> > info"
> > This usually brings up a link to Wikipedia as one of the top search results 
> > and here you find this information in a concise and
> > easy to read way. From the below information it is apparent that the iPad 
> > Mini 4 (the model released in September 2015) is the one to buy, it has the 
> > best chip, best camera, support for the highest bluetooth version and the 
> > most RAM as well as support for WiFi 802.11AC. Apple still may sell the 
> > iPad Mini 3, but I doubt they still officially sell the Ipad Mini 2 and 
> > definitely not the first generation. Here now the information:
> >  
> > Developer: Apple Inc.
> > Manufacturer: Foxconn, Pegatron[1]
> > Product family: iPad
> > Type: Tablet computer
> >  
> > Release date
> > 1st generation: November 2, 2012
> > 2: November 12, 2013
> > 3: October 22, 2014
> > 4: September 9, 2015
> >  
> > Operating system: iOS
> >  
> > System-on-chip used
> > 1st generation: Apple A5 (2nd generation: 32nm)
> > 2 & 3: Apple A7 (with Apple M7 motion co-processor)
> > 4: Apple A8 (with Apple M8 motion co-processor)
> >  
> > CPU
> > 1st generation: 1 GHz dual-core ARM Cortex-A9
> > 2 & 3: 1.3 GHz dual-core Apple Cyclone
> > 4: 1.5 GHz dual-core Apple Typhoon
> >  
> > Memory
> > 1st generation: 512 MB DDR2 RAM
> > 2 & 3: 1024 MB LPDDR3 RAM
> > 4: 2048 MB RAM
> >  
> > Storage
> > 1st generation: 16, 32, or 64 GB flash memory
> > 2: 16, 32, 64, or 128 GB flash memory[2]
> > 3 & 4: 16, 64, or 128 GB flash memory
> >  
> > Display
> > 7.9-inch (200.66 mm) diagonal LED-backlit Multi-Touch display with IPS 
> > technology, at 4:3 aspect ratio
> > 1st generation: 1024×768 px at 163 ppi
> > 2, 3 & 4: 2048×1536 pixels at 326 ppi (Retina Display)
> > 4: Fully laminated display, antireflective coating
> >  
> > Graphics
> > 1st generation: PowerVR SGX543MP2
> > 2 & 3: Quad-core PowerVR G6430
> > 4: Quad-core PowerVR GX6450
> >  
> > Input
> > Multi-touch screen, headset controls, proximity and ambient light sensors, 
> > 3-axis accelerometer, gyroscope, digital compass
> >  
> > Camera
> > 1st generation, 2 & 3: Front-facing 1.2MP & Rear-facing 5MP
> > 4: Front-facing 1.2MP & Rear-facing 8MP
> >  
> > Connectivity
> > 1st generation, 2 & 3: Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n @ 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz
> > 4: Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac @ 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz
> > 1st generation, 2 & 3: Bluetooth 4.0
> > 4: Bluetooth 4.2
> >  
> > GSM: LTE  (700, 2100 (Band 4) MHz)   .  UMTS / HSPA+ / DC-HSDPA  (850, 900, 
> > 1900, 2100 MHz)   .  GSM / EDGE  (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)  
> > CDMA: LTE  (750, 850, 1800, 1900, 2100 (Band 1) MHz)   .  CDMA / EV-DO Rev. 
> > A & B  (800, 1900, 2100 MHz)   .  UMTS / HSPA+ / DC-HSDPA  (850, 900, 1900, 
> > 2100 MHz)   .  GSM / EDGE  (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)   
> >  
> > Power
> > 1st generation: 3.72 V 16.5 W.h (4440 mA.h)
> > 2 & 3: 3.75 V 24.3 W.h (6471 mA.h)
> > 4: 3.82 V 19.32 W.h (5124 mA.h)
> >  
> > Online services: App Store, iTunes, Game Center, iCloud, FaceTime, iMessage
> >  
> > Dimensions
> > 1st generation: 7.87 in × 5.3 in × 0.28 in (199.9 mm × 134..6 mm × 7.1 mm)
> > 1st generation: 7.87 in × 5.3 in × 0.28 in (199.9 mm × 134..6 mm × 7.1 mm)
> > 2 & 3: 7.87 in × 5.3 in × 0.29 in (199.9 mm × 134.6 mm × 7.4 mm)
> > 4: 8.0 in × 5.3 in × 0.24 in (203.2 mm × 134.6 m
> >  
> >  
> > Weight
> > 1st generation: Wi-Fi: 0.68 lb (308 g). Wi-Fi + Cellular: 0.69 lb (312 g)
> > 2 & 3: Wi-Fi: 0.73 lb (330 g). Wi-Fi + Cellular: 0.75 lb (340 g)
> > 4: Wi-Fi: 0.65 lb (298.8 g). Wi-Fi + Cellular: 0.67 lb (304 g)
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> I have a mini too. Now I am sure your grandkids are not going to be using 
> voiceover, and maybe that will help.. The mini two is getting slow. It still 
> works, although I feel confident that it has just seen its last update. I 
> feel sure that when the new iOS comes out next year, the mini two will not be 
> on board. Can't prove it of course. I also understand that you probably don't 
> want to buy a really expensive thing for kids, depending on how old they are 
> and how will they take care of stuff. But the mini four should have more 
> years of upgrade in it than the mini twoo, at least one more year. And there 
> might be good deals on that coming down the line.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Oct 28, 2016, at 11:46 AM, Mr. Ed <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Sieghard,
> Thanks for the info. Having all that info help me a lot to give information 
> to my daughter in law. She is looking at buying the kids a couple iPad Mini 
> 2. They have new ones at Best Buy for $219.99. There is not a lot of 
> different between the 2,3, and 4. The 2 has a A7 chip and the 4 has an a8.
> Once again thanks for the info.
> Ed
>  
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2016 10:41 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Question on iPad mini
>  
> Hi Ed,
>  
> If you ever want information about the models and release dates of iDevices 
> just Google, to use your example of the iPad: "iPad Mini models and release 
> info"
> This usually brings up a link to Wikipedia as one of the top search results 
> and here you find this information in a concise and 
> easy to read way. From the below information it is apparent that the iPad 
> Mini 4 (the model released in September 2015) is the one to buy, it has the 
> best chip, best camera, support for the highest bluetooth version and the 
> most RAM as well as support for WiFi 802.11AC. Apple still may sell the iPad 
> Mini 3, but I doubt they still officially sell the Ipad Mini 2 and definitely 
> not the first generation. Here now the information:
>  
> Developer: Apple Inc.
> Manufacturer: Foxconn, Pegatron[1]
> Product family: iPad
> Type: Tablet computer
>  
> Release date
> 1st generation: November 2, 2012
> 2: November 12, 2013
> 3: October 22, 2014
> 4: September 9, 2015
>  
> Operating system: iOS
>  
> System-on-chip used
> 1st generation: Apple A5 (2nd generation: 32nm)
> 2 & 3: Apple A7 (with Apple M7 motion co-processor)
> 4: Apple A8 (with Apple M8 motion co-processor)
>  
> CPU
> 1st generation: 1 GHz dual-core ARM Cortex-A9
> 2 & 3: 1.3 GHz dual-core Apple Cyclone
> 4: 1.5 GHz dual-core Apple Typhoon
>  
> Memory
> 1st generation: 512 MB DDR2 RAM
> 2 & 3: 1024 MB LPDDR3 RAM
> 4: 2048 MB RAM 
>  
> Storage
> 1st generation: 16, 32, or 64 GB flash memory
> 2: 16, 32, 64, or 128 GB flash memory[2]
> 3 & 4: 16, 64, or 128 GB flash memory 
>  
> Display
> 7.9-inch (200.66 mm) diagonal LED-backlit Multi-Touch display with IPS 
> technology, at 4:3 aspect ratio
> 1st generation: 1024×768 px at 163 ppi
> 2, 3 & 4: 2048×1536 pixels at 326 ppi (Retina Display)
> 4: Fully laminated display, antireflective coating 
>  
> Graphics
> 1st generation: PowerVR SGX543MP2
> 2 & 3: Quad-core PowerVR G6430
> 4: Quad-core PowerVR GX6450 
>  
> Input
> Multi-touch screen, headset controls, proximity and ambient light sensors, 
> 3-axis accelerometer, gyroscope, digital compass 
>  
> Camera
> 1st generation, 2 & 3: Front-facing 1.2MP & Rear-facing 5MP
> 4: Front-facing 1.2MP & Rear-facing 8MP 
>  
> Connectivity
> 1st generation, 2 & 3: Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n @ 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz
> 4: Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac @ 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz
> 1st generation, 2 & 3: Bluetooth 4.0
> 4: Bluetooth 4.2
>  
> GSM: LTE  (700, 2100 (Band 4) MHz)   .  UMTS / HSPA+ / DC-HSDPA  (850, 900, 
> 1900, 2100 MHz)   .  GSM / EDGE  (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)   
> CDMA: LTE  (750, 850, 1800, 1900, 2100 (Band 1) MHz)   .  CDMA / EV-DO Rev. A 
> & B  (800, 1900, 2100 MHz)   .  UMTS / HSPA+ / DC-HSDPA  (850, 900, 1900, 
> 2100 MHz)   .  GSM / EDGE  (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)    
>  
> Power
> 1st generation: 3.72 V 16.5 W.h (4440 mA.h)
> 2 & 3: 3.75 V 24.3 W.h (6471 mA.h)
> 4: 3.82 V 19.32 W.h (5124 mA.h) 
>  
> Online services: App Store, iTunes, Game Center, iCloud, FaceTime, iMessage 
>  
> Dimensions
> 1st generation: 7.87 in × 5.3 in × 0.28 in (199.9 mm × 134.6 mm × 7.1 mm)
> 1st generation: 7.87 in × 5.3 in × 0.28 in (199.9 mm × 134.6 mm × 7.1 mm)
> 2 & 3: 7.87 in × 5.3 in × 0.29 in (199.9 mm × 134.6 mm × 7.4 mm)
> 4: 8.0 in × 5.3 in × 0.24 in (203.2 mm × 134.6 m 
>  
>  
> Weight
> 1st generation: Wi-Fi: 0.68 lb (308 g). Wi-Fi + Cellular: 0.69 lb (312 g)
> 2 & 3: Wi-Fi: 0.73 lb (330 g). Wi-Fi + Cellular: 0.75 lb (340 g)
> 4: Wi-Fi: 0.65 lb (298.8 g). Wi-Fi + Cellular: 0.67 lb (304 g)
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