Hello,
Its not opened for those that want to, but can't beta test yet, is it?

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From: Shawn Krasniuk  <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Date: Saturday, November 7, 2015 8:33 pm
Subject: Re: MODERATOR NOTE:  Posting Beta Questions to the List Will Result in 
Being Switched to Moderated Status

>
>
> Hi William. I'm subscribed to the list that does talk about beta versions. If 
> you want to subscribe to it, the address is 
> [email protected].
> 
> Shawn
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> > On Nov 7, 2015, at 6:57 AM, William Windels <[email protected]> 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > He all,
> > I agree of course with the described rules.
> > However, since there are (always) public beta's available, it should be 
> > great to have a low-level place to discuss accessibility-related problems.
> > So perhaps, important voiceover-bugs can be solved before the public 
> > release.
> > And also perhaps , not everyone is familiar with the developer's platform 
> > from apple to discuss there.
> > 
> > It's not my suggestion to ignore the mda-rules of apple in the first place 
> > but I want announce the problem for some users to announce and discuss 
> > accessibility problems in pre-release-versions of osx/ios.
> > Apple accessibility it self will not do something with pre-release 
> > questions , send by mail.
> > Kind regards,
> > William Windels
> >> Op 7 nov. 2015, om 08:00 heeft M. Taylor <[email protected]> het volgende 
> >> geschreven:
> >> 
> >> Hello Alex,
> >> 
> >> You ask an excellent question.
> >> 
> >> You are correct.  As you stated, questions about how to sign up for the 
> >> beta programs or downgrading devices are fine.  However, beta-specific 
> >> questions or details, any issues covered by an NDA, should not be 
> >> posted-on-list.
> >> 
> >> Mark
> >> 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
> >> Of Alex Hall
> >> Sent: Friday, November 06, 2015 8:31 PM
> >> To: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone
> >> Subject: Re: MODERATOR NOTE: Posting Beta Questions to the List Will 
> >> Result in Being Switched to Moderated Status
> >> 
> >> Mark,
> >> I haven't been following the beta testing thread at all, so forgive me if 
> >> this an obvious question. List members can post questions *about* testing, 
> >> correct? Downgrading, signing up, un-enrolling devices, and the like are 
> >> all fine, as they aren't covered by NDA. It's only questions specific to a 
> >> beta (is this bug fixed in the new beta, and such) that are the problem? 
> >> This has long been my understanding of the policy on this and other lists, 
> >> but I wanted to check now that it's come up.
> >>> On Nov 6, 2015, at 23:04, M. Taylor <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Hello Daniel,
> >>> 
> >>> You ask a very good question.  I should have included the information in 
> >>> my original email.
> >>> 
> >>> Being placed on moderated status means that one's post must first be 
> >>> approved by a moderator before being sent out to the entire list.
> >>> 
> >>> Mark
> >>> 
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
> >>> Behalf Of Daniel Miller
> >>> Sent: Friday, November 06, 2015 7:56 PM
> >>> To: [email protected]
> >>> Subject: Re: MODERATOR NOTE: Posting Beta Questions to the List Will 
> >>> Result in Being Switched to Moderated Status
> >>> 
> >>> Hi Mark, forgive my ignorance, but what does moderated status mean 
> >>> exactly?
> >>> 
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>> 
> >>>> On Nov 6, 2015, at 9:47 PM, M. Taylor <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>> Hello All,
> >>>> 
> >>>> Recently, a list member deliberately posted a beta software question 
> >>>> to the list knowing that doing so is prohibited.
> >>>> 
> >>>> As a result, even though it saddens me greatly, that member has been 
> >>>> placed on moderated status.  I have informed the list member of the 
> >>>> change in posting privileges.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Please do not post beta software questions to the list as doing so 
> >>>> will cause you to be placed on moderated status.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Thank you all for respecting the list policies.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Mark
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