I don't kno., because i  asked.

Sent from  my iphone

‫ב-7 בנוב׳ 2015, בשעה 18:01, ‏‏William Windels ‏<[email protected]> 
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> Nice to hear that such list exist.
> Can you say which list it is?
> 
> 
> Mvg
> william Windels
> 
> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone
> 
>> Op 7 nov. 2015 om 14:09 heeft ‫ליאל בן סימון‬‎ <[email protected]> het 
>> volgende geschreven:
>> 
>> Hi! There are groups that dis cast about beta versions? I agree that is 
>> emportentv talking about this before the versions release.
>> 
>> Sent from  my iphone
>> 
>> ‫ב-7 בנוב׳ 2015, בשעה 14:57, ‏‏William Windels ‏<[email protected]> 
>> כתב/ה:‬
>> 
>>> He all,
>>> I agree of course with the described rules.
>>> However, since there are (always) public beta’s available, it should be 
>>> great to have a low-level place to discuss accessibility-related problems.
>>> So perhaps, important voiceover-bugs can be solved before the public 
>>> release.
>>> And also perhaps , not everyone is familiar with the developer’s platform 
>>> from apple to discuss there.
>>> 
>>> It’s not my suggestion to ignore the mda-rules of apple in the first place 
>>> but I want announce the problem for some users to announce and discuss 
>>> accessibility problems in pre-release-versions of osx/ios.
>>> Apple accessibility it self will not do something with pre-release 
>>> questions , send by mail.
>>> Kind regards,
>>> William Windels
>>>> Op 7 nov. 2015, om 08:00 heeft M. Taylor <[email protected]> het volgende 
>>>> geschreven:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello Alex,
>>>> 
>>>> You ask an excellent question.
>>>> 
>>>> You are correct.  As you stated, questions about how to sign up for the 
>>>> beta programs or downgrading devices are fine.  However, beta-specific 
>>>> questions or details, any issues covered by an NDA, should not be 
>>>> posted-on-list.
>>>> 
>>>> Mark
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf 
>>>> Of Alex Hall
>>>> Sent: Friday, November 06, 2015 8:31 PM
>>>> To: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone
>>>> Subject: Re: MODERATOR NOTE: Posting Beta Questions to the List Will 
>>>> Result in Being Switched to Moderated Status
>>>> 
>>>> Mark,
>>>> I haven't been following the beta testing thread at all, so forgive me if 
>>>> this an obvious question. List members can post questions *about* testing, 
>>>> correct? Downgrading, signing up, un-enrolling devices, and the like are 
>>>> all fine, as they aren't covered by NDA. It's only questions specific to a 
>>>> beta (is this bug fixed in the new beta, and such) that are the problem? 
>>>> This has long been my understanding of the policy on this and other lists, 
>>>> but I wanted to check now that it's come up.
>>>>> On Nov 6, 2015, at 23:04, M. Taylor <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hello Daniel,
>>>>> 
>>>>> You ask a very good question.  I should have included the information in 
>>>>> my original email.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Being placed on moderated status means that one's post must first be 
>>>>> approved by a moderator before being sent out to the entire list.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mark
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
>>>>> Behalf Of Daniel Miller
>>>>> Sent: Friday, November 06, 2015 7:56 PM
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> Subject: Re: MODERATOR NOTE: Posting Beta Questions to the List Will 
>>>>> Result in Being Switched to Moderated Status
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Mark, forgive my ignorance, but what does moderated status mean 
>>>>> exactly?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Nov 6, 2015, at 9:47 PM, M. Taylor <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello All,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Recently, a list member deliberately posted a beta software question 
>>>>>> to the list knowing that doing so is prohibited.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> As a result, even though it saddens me greatly, that member has been 
>>>>>> placed on moderated status.  I have informed the list member of the 
>>>>>> change in posting privileges.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Please do not post beta software questions to the list as doing so 
>>>>>> will cause you to be placed on moderated status.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thank you all for respecting the list policies.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>> 
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