> On Feb 28, 2019, at 9:11 PM, Benjamin Kaduk <ka...@mit.edu> wrote: > >> The primary motivation for "Require TLS = no" is to allow the user >> to *resend" a message that is not getting through, or to reach the >> destination domain's postmaster because of downstream (receiving >> system misconfiguration), to send a message that requires no meaningful >> confidentiality. Individual users are very well positioned to make > > If those are the *primary motivation*s, then why does neither "resend" nor > "postmaster" appear in the -07?
Well, for me (can't speak for others), it did not seem like an important detail. The mechanism is independent of what one might guess to be the user's most likely motives. Perhaps these should have been explicit, but they seemed obvious and inessential. :-( The idea is that the recipient's promise to have working TLS with either DANE, MTA-STS or both might not always work out, and so users as well as MTA administrators might sometimes need a plan B. The individual user is generally well placed to make a judgement call about the sensitivity of his message. That may not be true for "corporate citizens", but the corporate SMTP gateway is controlled by the organization, not the user, and is free to not honour the user's signal, like any signal from remote MTAs, this signal from the user is input to local policy, not a mandate. Only "RequireTLS = yes" imposes a clear mandate on conformant MTAs. -- Viktor. _______________________________________________ Uta mailing list Uta@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/uta