Dear Marcus, 

thank you for your answer. Just to clarify the problem a little better. 
We use a UBX160 daughter card. 
To have optimal SNR, an automatic gain control has been implemented based on 
the max IQ value. 
The sample rate is 30.72 for LTE decoding. 
Unfortunately, high power exists outside our useful band (30.72 MHz) but inside 
the bandwidth of the 160 daughter card (sampled by the 200 MHz ADC). 
We expected the AGC to saturate... but after DSP filtering process by the 
motherboard, the IQ samples got with UHD is no longer saturated. 
As a result, the IQ max is low enough and AGC control continue to increase the 
gain :-( 
It is my current understanding of the situation. 
Is there any way to have an estimate of the raw AGC input level when the sample 
rate is not 200 MHz? 
I hope to be clear enough... but surelty not crystal clear :-) 
Best regards 

Patrice 


De: "Marcus D. Leech" <patchvonbr...@gmail.com> 
À: "usrp-users" <usrp-users@lists.ettus.com> 
Envoyé: Vendredi 18 Octobre 2024 17:38:43 
Objet: [USRP-users] Re: ADC saturation problem in USRP X310 

On 18/10/2024 11:35, je.amg...@gmail.com wrote: 
> 
> Hello, 
> 
> I am currently facing an issue with ADC saturation on a USRP X310 
> equipped with a UBX daughterboard. We are conducting measurements 
> using an LTE signal and a sinusoidal input signal, but it seems that 
> the ADC is saturating, leading to a loss of dynamic range in our 
> measurements. 
> 
> Test context: 
> We are transmitting (using a generator) an LTE signal with a power of 
> -50 dBm at a center frequency of 1815 MHz. Then, we add a sinusoidal 
> signal at 1865 MHz with a power of -30 dBm. This second, more powerful 
> signal seems to be causing the ADC to saturate, even though we don’t 
> see it directly in the IQ samples due to the digital filtering applied 
> downstream. 
> 
> Problem: 
> We suspect that the ADC saturation occurs before IQ conversion and is 
> therefore masked by the digital filters. This results in a loss of 
> dynamic range in our measurements, and we feel that adjusting the gain 
> based on the IQ samples may not be reliable. 
> 
> Question: 
> How can this ADC saturation be detected upstream of the IQ processing? 
> Are there tools or methods to directly monitor the sample values at 
> the output of the ADC in the USRP (before digital filtering) to 
> prevent saturation? 
> Do you have any advice for implementing an automatic gain controller 
> (AGC) based on reliable saturation indicators? 
> We would appreciate any suggestions or experiences in resolving this 
> issue. If you have encountered a similar problem or have ideas on how 
> to address it, we would be happy to hear your recommendations. 
> 
> Thank you very much for your help! 
> 
> 
A -30dBm signal applied at the antenna inputs, and then amplified 
greatly by the amplifier/mixer/gain-chain ahead of the ADC 
would very-likely saturate the ADC. A -30dBm signal from an "over 
the air" antenna is one that is thunderingly loud in 
the real world. It would not surprise me to find that gain elements 
ahead of the ADC are *also* becoming non-linear. 

Turn your gain down. 

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