Awesome, thanks a lot!

On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 10:46 PM Marcus D. Leech <mle...@ripnet.com> wrote:

> On 03/10/2018 12:59 AM, Sailor Jerry wrote:
>
> Thanks a lot Nick, is there way to find out if the PLL is locked or not?
> Can it be done via SW or I need to probe MUXOUT of U101. What should I see
> there?
>
> The reason I need to know it, I want to make sure I'm locked to external
> 10 MHz. Now for some reasons I see the input tone few tens of  KHz off from
> where I expect to see it.
>
> There is a ref_locked sensor, you can read it with get_mboard_sensor():
>
>
> https://files.ettus.com/manual/classuhd_1_1usrp_1_1multi__usrp.html#a2d3c327bcb83fd274e05e3ca95d1ac95
>
> The on-board clock is 2.5PPM.
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 9:52 PM Nick Foster <bistrom...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Without an external reference, the onboard 40MHz VCTCXO will handle
>> creating a decent reference without the benefit of the PLL locking it to a
>> 10MHz reference. Wouldn't be much use otherwise.
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 9, 2018, 9:46 PM Sailor Jerry <sailorje...@scmarinetech.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Guys, thank you so much for your support, you are awesome!
>>>
>>> Now I feel myself as complete idiot. I removed GPSDO. Disconnected the
>>> 10MHz clock, by USRP is still working and it seems to be on more or less
>>> correct correct frequency. I clearly can see the input tone on fft utility.
>>>
>>> Is there some other clock source I'm unaware off?  Can I see the ADF4001
>>> lock status?  Here is the output I'm getting:
>>> linux; GNU C++ version 5.3.1 20151219; Boost_105800;
>>> UHD_003.009.002-0-unknown
>>>
>>> -- Loading firmware image: /usr/share/uhd/images/usrp_b200_fw.hex...
>>> -- Detected Device: B210
>>> -- Loading FPGA image: /usr/share/uhd/images/usrp_b210_fpga.bin...
>>> -- Operating over USB 3.
>>> -- Detecting internal GPSDO.... No GPSDO found
>>> -- Initialize CODEC control...
>>> -- Initialize Radio control...
>>> -- Performing register loopback test... pass
>>> -- Performing register loopback test... pass
>>> -- Performing CODEC loopback test... pass
>>> -- Performing CODEC loopback test... pass
>>> -- Asking for clock rate 16.000000 MHz...
>>> -- Actually got clock rate 16.000000 MHz.
>>> -- Performing timer loopback test... pass
>>> -- Performing timer loopback test... pass
>>> -- Setting master clock rate selection to 'automatic'.
>>> -- Asking for clock rate 32.000000 MHz...
>>> -- Actually got clock rate 32.000000 MHz.
>>> -- Performing timer loopback test... pass
>>> -- Performing timer loopback test... pass
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 9:09 PM Sailor Jerry <
>>> sailorje...@scmarinetech.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> That would explain it , thanks :-)
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 9:07 PM Nick Foster <bistrom...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I uh what? I don't see why that would be the case. The whole reason
>>>>> U103 exists is to switch between a GPSDO (if present) and an external
>>>>> reference.
>>>>>
>>>>> You might wait for the official Ettus response for this if you don't
>>>>> want to take responsibility for blowing it up, but I drew the schematic 
>>>>> and
>>>>> I say you're fine.
>>>>>
>>>>> Incidentally, very early prototypes of the B200 used a neat PIN diode
>>>>> switch ring which would allow outputting the GPSDO signal as well as using
>>>>> either the reference port or GPSDO as a clock input. I can't remember why
>>>>> it didn't make it into production, but one side effect would be that if
>>>>> misconfigured, you could damage hardware. Maybe that was it. ;)
>>>>>
>>>>> Nick
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 8:48 PM Marcus D. Leech <mle...@ripnet.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 03/09/2018 11:44 PM, Sailor Jerry wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks. Shall I ignore that sentence from USRP B2x0 Series manual "The
>>>>>> B200 and B210 cannot support an external 10 MHz reference if a GPSDO is
>>>>>> already present on the motherboard. If an external 10 MHz is to be used,
>>>>>> the GPSDO needs to be physically removed from the device beforehand."?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think that advice is still correct, but I cannot remember why.
>>>>>> Nick?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 8:32 PM Marcus D. Leech <mle...@ripnet.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 03/09/2018 11:25 PM, Sailor Jerry wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Would be happy to restore it to original condition :-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm using the uhd_rx_cfile to capture the data. How do I control
>>>>>>> U103 from this app? I don't see any command line arguments for that? Do 
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> need to rebuild it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You'd have to add that, inserting a call to set_clock_source() at an
>>>>>>> appropriate place.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The example apps (and this is one) don't necessarily expose all
>>>>>>> available features.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 8:08 PM Marcus D. Leech via USRP-users <
>>>>>>> usrp-users@lists.ettus.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 03/09/2018 08:11 PM, Nick Foster wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's a slick mod though. See the zero-ohm resistor bridging U103
>>>>>>>> pins 1 and 3? Remove it, and you'll return the B210 to factory 
>>>>>>>> standard.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Assuming no other modifications have also been made.  =)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nick
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Your eyes are much better than mine....
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 4:31 PM Marcus D. Leech via USRP-users <
>>>>>>>> usrp-users@lists.ettus.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 03/09/2018 07:22 PM, Sailor Jerry via USRP-users wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> HI Marcus, I see your point and also saw the schematic. The
>>>>>>>>> previous owner told me that this particular board was modified to 
>>>>>>>>> have 10
>>>>>>>>> MHz be brought out to the outside connector. I did verify it with the 
>>>>>>>>> scope
>>>>>>>>> and indeed saw the 10 MHz coming out. I don't know if it's one of the
>>>>>>>>> standard factory options or just some custom modifications (the board 
>>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>> Olifantasia label on it).  Will take a closer look at pins 3 and 1 of 
>>>>>>>>> U103
>>>>>>>>> as you suggest.  If they are bridged indeed then I guess simple 
>>>>>>>>> removal of
>>>>>>>>> GPSDO would do the trick.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That is NOT a factory-standard option.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 4:10 PM Marcus Müller <
>>>>>>>>> marcus.muel...@ettus.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dear Sailor Jerry,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure I'm following here: The 10 MHz connector is
>>>>>>>>>> hardware-wise
>>>>>>>>>> connected only to inputs, not to anything that can output
>>>>>>>>>> anything;
>>>>>>>>>> compare the schematic[1] on page 1. So, I'm pretty certain your
>>>>>>>>>> device
>>>>>>>>>> can't be condigured to have the 10 MHz connector be an output for
>>>>>>>>>> anything.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Can you maybe describe the problem you're having?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>> Marcus
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> [1] https://files.ettus.com/schematics/b200/b210.pdf
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 2018-03-09 at 23:51 +0000, Sailor Jerry via USRP-users
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> > I inherited the B210 board that has the 10 MHz connector
>>>>>>>>>> configured
>>>>>>>>>> > as an output. I wonder if anyone is aware of this configuration
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> > if it's possible to reconfigure it to accept the external 10 MHz
>>>>>>>>>> > input.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > My current plan is simply remove GPSDO and hope for the best.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > Attached are two pictures of my board. One is with GPSDO
>>>>>>>>>> inserted and
>>>>>>>>>> > another one with GPSDO removed.
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> > Thanks a lot!
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>> >
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