On 03/10/2018 12:59 AM, Sailor Jerry wrote:
Thanks a lot Nick, is there way to find out if the PLL is locked or not? Can it be done via SW or I need to probe MUXOUT of U101. What should I see there?

The reason I need to know it, I want to make sure I'm locked to external 10 MHz. Now for some reasons I see the input tone few tens of KHz off from where I expect to see it.

There is a ref_locked sensor, you can read it with get_mboard_sensor():

https://files.ettus.com/manual/classuhd_1_1usrp_1_1multi__usrp.html#a2d3c327bcb83fd274e05e3ca95d1ac95

The on-board clock is 2.5PPM.



On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 9:52 PM Nick Foster <bistrom...@gmail.com <mailto:bistrom...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    Without an external reference, the onboard 40MHz VCTCXO will
    handle creating a decent reference without the benefit of the PLL
    locking it to a 10MHz reference. Wouldn't be much use otherwise.

    On Fri, Mar 9, 2018, 9:46 PM Sailor Jerry
    <sailorje...@scmarinetech.com
    <mailto:sailorje...@scmarinetech.com>> wrote:

        Guys, thank you so much for your support, you are awesome!

        Now I feel myself as complete idiot. I removed GPSDO.
        Disconnected the 10MHz clock, by USRP is still working and it
        seems to be on more or less correct correct frequency. I
        clearly can see the input tone on fft utility.

        Is there some other clock source I'm unaware off? Can I see
        the ADF4001 lock status?  Here is the output I'm getting:
        linux; GNU C++ version 5.3.1 20151219; Boost_105800;
        UHD_003.009.002-0-unknown

        -- Loading firmware image:
        /usr/share/uhd/images/usrp_b200_fw.hex...
        -- Detected Device: B210
        -- Loading FPGA image: /usr/share/uhd/images/usrp_b210_fpga.bin...
        -- Operating over USB 3.
        -- Detecting internal GPSDO.... No GPSDO found
        -- Initialize CODEC control...
        -- Initialize Radio control...
        -- Performing register loopback test... pass
        -- Performing register loopback test... pass
        -- Performing CODEC loopback test... pass
        -- Performing CODEC loopback test... pass
        -- Asking for clock rate 16.000000 MHz...
        -- Actually got clock rate 16.000000 MHz.
        -- Performing timer loopback test... pass
        -- Performing timer loopback test... pass
        -- Setting master clock rate selection to 'automatic'.
        -- Asking for clock rate 32.000000 MHz...
        -- Actually got clock rate 32.000000 MHz.
        -- Performing timer loopback test... pass
        -- Performing timer loopback test... pass




        On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 9:09 PM Sailor Jerry
        <sailorje...@scmarinetech.com
        <mailto:sailorje...@scmarinetech.com>> wrote:

            That would explain it , thanks :-)

            On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 9:07 PM Nick Foster
            <bistrom...@gmail.com <mailto:bistrom...@gmail.com>> wrote:

                I uh what? I don't see why that would be the case. The
                whole reason U103 exists is to switch between a GPSDO
                (if present) and an external reference.

                You might wait for the official Ettus response for
                this if you don't want to take responsibility for
                blowing it up, but I drew the schematic and I say
                you're fine.

                Incidentally, very early prototypes of the B200 used a
                neat PIN diode switch ring which would allow
                outputting the GPSDO signal as well as using either
                the reference port or GPSDO as a clock input. I can't
                remember why it didn't make it into production, but
                one side effect would be that if misconfigured, you
                could damage hardware. Maybe that was it. ;)

                Nick

                On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 8:48 PM Marcus D. Leech
                <mle...@ripnet.com <mailto:mle...@ripnet.com>> wrote:

                    On 03/09/2018 11:44 PM, Sailor Jerry wrote:
                    Thanks. Shall I ignore that sentence from USRP
                    B2x0 Series manual "The B200 and B210 cannot
                    support an external 10 MHz reference if a GPSDO
                    is already present on the motherboard. If an
                    external 10 MHz is to be used, the GPSDO needs to
                    be physically removed from the device beforehand."?

                    I think that advice is still correct, but I cannot
                    remember why.  Nick?




                    On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 8:32 PM Marcus D. Leech
                    <mle...@ripnet.com <mailto:mle...@ripnet.com>> wrote:

                        On 03/09/2018 11:25 PM, Sailor Jerry wrote:
                        Would be happy to restore it to original
                        condition :-)

                        I'm using the uhd_rx_cfile to capture the
                        data. How do I control U103 from this app? I
                        don't see any command line arguments for
                        that? Do I need to rebuild it?
                        You'd have to add that, inserting a call to
                        set_clock_source() at an appropriate place.

                        The example apps (and this is one) don't
                        necessarily expose all available features.




                        On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 8:08 PM Marcus D.
                        Leech via USRP-users
                        <usrp-users@lists.ettus.com
                        <mailto:usrp-users@lists.ettus.com>> wrote:

                            On 03/09/2018 08:11 PM, Nick Foster wrote:
                            It's a slick mod though. See the
                            zero-ohm resistor bridging U103 pins 1
                            and 3? Remove it, and you'll return the
                            B210 to factory standard.

                            Assuming no other modifications have
                            also been made.  =)

                            Nick
                            Your eyes are much better than mine....



                            On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 4:31 PM Marcus
                            D. Leech via USRP-users
                            <usrp-users@lists.ettus.com
                            <mailto:usrp-users@lists.ettus.com>> wrote:

                                On 03/09/2018 07:22 PM, Sailor
                                Jerry via USRP-users wrote:
                                HI Marcus, I see your point and
                                also saw the schematic. The
                                previous owner told me that this
                                particular board was modified to
                                have 10 MHz be brought out to the
                                outside connector. I did verify it
                                with the scope and indeed saw the
                                10 MHz coming out. I don't know if
                                it's one of the standard factory
                                options or just some custom
                                modifications (the board has
                                Olifantasia label on it). Will
                                take a closer look at pins 3 and 1
                                of U103 as you suggest.  If they
                                are bridged indeed then I guess
                                simple removal of GPSDO would do
                                the trick.


                                That is NOT a factory-standard option.




                                On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 4:10 PM
                                Marcus Müller
                                <marcus.muel...@ettus.com
                                <mailto:marcus.muel...@ettus.com>>
                                wrote:

                                    Dear Sailor Jerry,

                                    I'm not sure I'm following
                                    here: The 10 MHz connector is
                                    hardware-wise
                                    connected only to inputs, not
                                    to anything that can output
                                    anything;
                                    compare the schematic[1] on
                                    page 1. So, I'm pretty certain
                                    your device
                                    can't be condigured to have
                                    the 10 MHz connector be an
                                    output for
                                    anything.

                                    Can you maybe describe the
                                    problem you're having?

                                    Best regards,
                                    Marcus

                                    [1]
                                    
https://files.ettus.com/schematics/b200/b210.pdf
                                    On Fri, 2018-03-09 at 23:51
                                    +0000, Sailor Jerry via
                                    USRP-users wrote:
                                    > I inherited the B210 board
                                    that has the 10 MHz connector
                                    configured
                                    > as an output. I wonder if
                                    anyone is aware of this
                                    configuration and
                                    > if it's possible to
                                    reconfigure it to accept the
                                    external 10 MHz
                                    > input.
                                    >
                                    > My current plan is simply
                                    remove GPSDO and hope for the
                                    best.
                                    >
                                    > Attached are two pictures of
                                    my board. One is with GPSDO
                                    inserted and
                                    > another one with GPSDO removed.
                                    >
                                    > Thanks a lot!
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    >
                                    
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