all I am after is a build tree that can be checked out, built, operated and run 
as claimed... not stuck, broken, in shambles and in buildable with a gazillion 
transient dependency errors and local build tree errors never mind transient 
dependency errors. Otherwise shut it down or step down and let someone else run 
with the ball.

Dont dare incite I am prejudice. Thats the easy way out... 
manipulative...cheep... (mispslled on purpose). . though I was ousted with 
prejudice by such a project operating a build tree in fear that they would be 
outperformed let alone addicted to tooting their own whistles and locking down 
a code base they took and ran with for almost a decade and is still a TOY. 
broke and only buildable by maybe 3 or four people on the planet. Only the 
privileged have the keys to building it but their foot is fairly solid and 
aimed into CORPORATE AMERICA.

I think its time for a change. That open source be held to its title. OPEN and 
that means not closed. But I am talking about a slippery slope. When you create 
a jira (dare to after keeping your mouth shut quiet for months and 
years...careful not to say anything that might piss off the committers (OR YOU 
WILL GET NOTHING) or they will sowe even more bugs into the source tree to 
prevent it from functioning or maybe even attempt to hack you and send you a 
virus for speaking out. Thats CLOSED. And a dictatorship.

If you cant check it out and build it clean and run it clean... it should be 
shutdown or the ball passed onto someone with a big HEART that cares.

But wait... this is open source... open source is a very selfish field... but 
ten years of it ? Thats a decade. Ok 8.

All I am looking for is the diamond to sparkle. is that so hard to see and 
understand ?
does anyone understand I got ethics, valuers, morals and standards ?

Instead we got cross dressing dictatorships.
Ok I havent tested out the soil to see where the others are at. I have kept 
faithful to the same project for a vested amount of years only to see the same 
thing get worse. NOTHING.

So I will repeat my assertion.

AMERICANS WRITE THE BEST SOFTWARE. AMERICANS ARE THE MOST GENEROUS SOFTWARE 
WRITERS ON THE PLANET.

and if thats too much to handle... take your dictatorship and your alien craft 
and your wardrobe and goto mars. 

and when this industry starts gauging and rewarding the project heads 
(committers) by how much of their code is running and how many users are going 
commercial with it... and especially how the guy in the home office is happy 
with it... then it can be called open source. Otherwise its a violation of 
criteria. FRAUD with one foot in the jungle and another on a banana peel .. 
Open for abuse... and is abused. Until it cleans itself up only then will I 
have respectful words. I lost my respect.

There are benevolent developers in RUSSIA too that are worthy and generous and 
should be operating these rogue open source projects. I bad mouthed 
m2Eclipse... politely years back and in a matter of months ... well you see 
where its come today.

And we got the best knocking on our doors to spit in our faces.

Until they learn the ten commandments and respect to humanity I got no respect 
for them. none no matter where they went to school or how much experience they 
got.

i shouldn't have to be haunting the forums for this stuff... I should be 
focusing on pure business logic. instead its build tree junk and transient 
dependencies and crash bugs bootstrap bugs

all by design and these folks are likely wanting to speak at DEV CON or other 
open source gatherings.

I see a ton of cleaning up to be done or that javascript MVC/CRUD (which is 
already looking tasty from Pacific to Atlantic) is going to outperform 
serverside JAVA and render it obsolete. Soon they will be implementing ORM in 
javascript by the time this build tree is mature enough to get right sparkle 
like it should and stay that way. then I might not have to burn out trying to 
write software on the weekends.

I'm not talking about tapestry.
                                          

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