Thanks Dan, Insidious is valid as projects expand growth. It has a tendency to get out of control and then you end up in a holding pattern... and in many cases for months... waiting for the upgrade or the patch thats needed.
What I find worse though is open source project committers that deliberately maintain broken build tree compilation and run time never sync or get head rev to build properly never mind actually run. Or maybe they are oblivious to what they are building as opposed to the outside world. One cold make an argument easily for whether its negligence or intentional for diabolical personal gain and if its the best code base on the planet then you know they only want a handful of people building/working it ungenerously and the whole site they are showing off is for ego (hey give us 10million stock options in IBM... and look at what we did... yeah we deserve it) when the only fruit brought forth was for themselves. I wold still rather be on the losing end than have pumped all my energy into something and get nothing back due to my own sabotage. However you want to look at it... the MIT days are gone when something was made for free and the docs and runtime and build tree are pristine naturally the way it should be generously and people were able to give the industry their best without having to rework or get disabled rummaging thru crap perpetuated by projects heads that dont even know what the hell they are doing for the industry. I guess as long as they get their hourly rate. ok enough rambling... i guess I have solid experience working with the worst build tree on the planet. and I am an expert at maven transient dependencies. And getting mauled by code that wont build or run once checked out. So how many folks are actually using and going commercial with this stuff? I cant see many. And I am not impressed that the current surge in javascript will have any differences. Just point to a different URL. Oops bugs in that one too. It might be better. In any event, I will put a clapper on this and take it in stride knowing we could all be putting out more as a whole instead of the minimum which is currently the strategy. When 18mo passes by and you haven't gotten anything done then you will know what I am talking about. So thanks Dan, insidious? I feel bad for the developers who have thrown in the towel and couldnt get as far as we have... kudos to the handful on the planet that have. I believe the ethics and morals of open source projects should take precedence over anyone operating one and their canonical beliefs. Humanity has none. And its a shame. I think when America takes back ground stolen things will get better. Until then I wouldnt go commercial with anything unless its bare bones tight and independent. Americans are the best software engineers int he world. And the most generous.