Hi Matheus, Well, I didn't call Thiago a liar. I personally don't know him but I won't doubt that he's a nice guy. At least one can sense that from the way he composes his mails.
What I know, for sure, is that Howard is a coward. He has a double agenda. He doesn't practise what he preaches. He preaches Tapestry to his cult members here but practises Wicket on his clients' projects. And admit that too in an interview. I hate the way he uses Thiago like a slave. He sits there and act like a dictator. He even looks like Saddam Hussein, the dead dictator of Iraq. Some years back, he used Jesse Kuhnert also like a slave until Jesse saw the light and abandoned the sinking Ship. Jesse left already in 2008 to a better Web framework. So Matteus, tell your friend to quit, like Jesse did. He's a smart guy, I think, and doesn't deserve to be treated like that. I hope when he leaves, all the other cult members would disperse like flies. Cheers On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Matheus Eduardo Machado Moreira < matheus....@gmail.com> wrote: > Good Lord, I did't know that Tapestry list had a "let's have fun" topic > like this one! :-) > > Emmanuel, it is not that you *"(...) won't cite anything about that > interview (...)"*. You just *can't* because it just exists in your head. > You call Howard coward and Thiago (who is my personal friend from a long > time) a liar but you are acting the *same* (and I don't think that Howard > is a coward and I *know* that Thiago is not a liar). Never one person here > threatened another one and you're using this excuse as a way to run away > from the responsability of presenting facts when *you can't*. > > Even if Tapestry is not relevant in the web framework space (and I'm not > saying it isn't), there are a lot to be learned with it (and its IOC > framework), with its community (which is very supportive, well behaved -- > except from you -- and intelligent), reading the source codes and learning > incredible solutions that are the result of the work of great minds. > > Atenciosamente, > > Matheus Eduardo Machado Moreira > matheus....@gmail.com > > > 2013/11/21 Muhammad Gelbana <m.gelb...@gmail.com> > > > Tapestry is an idea Mr. Emmanuel and Ideas are troll proof. > > > > *---------------------* > > *Muhammad Gelbana* > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/mgelbana > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 1:05 PM, Peter Hvass <p.hv...@albourne.com> > wrote: > > > > > Wooow! What is this inane crap? :D This is hilarious in general on all > > > sides! > > > > > > > > > The best bit was discovering this wiki page; > > > http://wiki.apache.org/tapestry/Tapestry5Trolls > > > > > > > > > Have been giggling with a colleague over this today. :) > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: "ICE Ernesto Arteaga Zavala" <arterza...@gmail.com> > > > To: "Tapestry users" <users@tapestry.apache.org> > > > Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 1:03:04 AM > > > Subject: Re: Web frameworks > > > > > > Emmanuel, > > > > > > Then have sex with Wicket and let us work with the framework we > > > prefer... > > > > > > > > > 2013/11/20 Emmanuel Sowah <eso...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > And let me clarify some more about live class reloading in Wicket. > > Wicket > > > > has 2 modes- development and production. When you turn on development > > > mode, > > > > it reloads classes live. So don't fool yourself and others to think > > > > Tapestry is the only framework that does live class reloading. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 10:18 PM, Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo < > > > > thiag...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 19:04:30 -0200, Emmanuel Sowah < > eso...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Don't listen to Thiago, he is just blowing hot air. Tapestry is no > > more > > > > >> relevant, as can be seen in the article: > > > > >> http://zeroturnaround.com/rebellabs/the-2014-decision- > > > > >> makers-guide-to-java-web-frameworks/ > > > > >> As you may see, Tapestry is not mentioned anywhere in that > article. > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > A single article shouldn't be the single decision point of any > > > decision. > > > > > Not to mention that ZeroTurnaround provides a tool that provides > live > > > > class > > > > > reloading, which Tapestry already does for some scenarios. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What about Vaadin, GWT or Wicket? > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Drink another shot! :D > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thiago, please stop misleading people. > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Now you're calling me a liar or something by accusing me of > > misleading > > > > > people. That's rude, specially in a medium which is archived for > many > > > > years > > > > > to come, and most people don't like rude people. You're being so > > > pathetic > > > > > the only feeling I have right now about you isn't anger. It's pity. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tapestry is just dying a slow death. > > > > >> Even Howard admitted that in a recent interview. > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > [citation needed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo > > > > > Tapestry, Java and Hibernate consultant and developer > > > > > http://machina.com.br > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Saludos, > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > "Nada que se consiga sin pena y sin trabajo > > > es verdaderamente valioso." > > > Joseph Addison > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > ICE Ernesto Arteaga Zavala > > > Ingeniero de Desarrollo > > > > > > > > >
