Emmanuel Sowah, please provide me with a side by side comparison of the code, some basic tapestry stuff and the equivalent in wicket. Maybe throw a component into the mix such as the AjaxFormLoop, I'd like to see how "you" would code it up in Tapestry5.4 and the equivalent in wicket. I'd like to make my own assessment, not one from you.
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Emmanuel Sowah <eso...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Matheus, > > Well, I didn't call Thiago a liar. I personally don't know him but I won't > doubt that he's a nice guy. At least one can sense that from the way he > composes his mails. > > What I know, for sure, is that Howard is a coward. He has a double agenda. > He doesn't practise what he preaches. He preaches Tapestry to his cult > members here but practises Wicket on his clients' projects. And admit that > too in an interview. > I hate the way he uses Thiago like a slave. He sits there and act like a > dictator. He even looks like Saddam Hussein, the dead dictator of Iraq. > > Some years back, he used Jesse Kuhnert also like a slave until Jesse saw > the light and abandoned the sinking Ship. Jesse > left already in 2008 to a better Web framework. So Matteus, tell your > friend to quit, like Jesse did. He's a smart guy, I think, > and doesn't deserve to be treated like that. I hope when he leaves, all the > other cult members would disperse like flies. > > Cheers > > > > On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Matheus Eduardo Machado Moreira < > matheus....@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Good Lord, I did't know that Tapestry list had a "let's have fun" > topic > > like this one! :-) > > > > Emmanuel, it is not that you *"(...) won't cite anything about that > > interview (...)"*. You just *can't* because it just exists in your head. > > You call Howard coward and Thiago (who is my personal friend from a long > > time) a liar but you are acting the *same* (and I don't think that Howard > > is a coward and I *know* that Thiago is not a liar). Never one person > here > > threatened another one and you're using this excuse as a way to run away > > from the responsability of presenting facts when *you can't*. > > > > Even if Tapestry is not relevant in the web framework space (and I'm > not > > saying it isn't), there are a lot to be learned with it (and its IOC > > framework), with its community (which is very supportive, well behaved -- > > except from you -- and intelligent), reading the source codes and > learning > > incredible solutions that are the result of the work of great minds. > > > > Atenciosamente, > > > > Matheus Eduardo Machado Moreira > > matheus....@gmail.com > > > > > > 2013/11/21 Muhammad Gelbana <m.gelb...@gmail.com> > > > > > Tapestry is an idea Mr. Emmanuel and Ideas are troll proof. > > > > > > *---------------------* > > > *Muhammad Gelbana* > > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/mgelbana > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 1:05 PM, Peter Hvass <p.hv...@albourne.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > Wooow! What is this inane crap? :D This is hilarious in general on > all > > > > sides! > > > > > > > > > > > > The best bit was discovering this wiki page; > > > > http://wiki.apache.org/tapestry/Tapestry5Trolls > > > > > > > > > > > > Have been giggling with a colleague over this today. :) > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > > From: "ICE Ernesto Arteaga Zavala" <arterza...@gmail.com> > > > > To: "Tapestry users" <users@tapestry.apache.org> > > > > Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 1:03:04 AM > > > > Subject: Re: Web frameworks > > > > > > > > Emmanuel, > > > > > > > > Then have sex with Wicket and let us work with the framework we > > > > prefer... > > > > > > > > > > > > 2013/11/20 Emmanuel Sowah <eso...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > And let me clarify some more about live class reloading in Wicket. > > > Wicket > > > > > has 2 modes- development and production. When you turn on > development > > > > mode, > > > > > it reloads classes live. So don't fool yourself and others to think > > > > > Tapestry is the only framework that does live class reloading. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 10:18 PM, Thiago H de Paula Figueiredo < > > > > > thiag...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 20 Nov 2013 19:04:30 -0200, Emmanuel Sowah < > > eso...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Don't listen to Thiago, he is just blowing hot air. Tapestry is > no > > > more > > > > > >> relevant, as can be seen in the article: > > > > > >> http://zeroturnaround.com/rebellabs/the-2014-decision- > > > > > >> makers-guide-to-java-web-frameworks/ > > > > > >> As you may see, Tapestry is not mentioned anywhere in that > > article. > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > A single article shouldn't be the single decision point of any > > > > decision. > > > > > > Not to mention that ZeroTurnaround provides a tool that provides > > live > > > > > class > > > > > > reloading, which Tapestry already does for some scenarios. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What about Vaadin, GWT or Wicket? > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Drink another shot! :D > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thiago, please stop misleading people. > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Now you're calling me a liar or something by accusing me of > > > misleading > > > > > > people. That's rude, specially in a medium which is archived for > > many > > > > > years > > > > > > to come, and most people don't like rude people. You're being so > > > > pathetic > > > > > > the only feeling I have right now about you isn't anger. It's > pity. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tapestry is just dying a slow death. > > > > > >> Even Howard admitted that in a recent interview. > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > [citation needed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Thiago H. de Paula Figueiredo > > > > > > Tapestry, Java and Hibernate consultant and developer > > > > > > http://machina.com.br > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org > > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Saludos, > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > "Nada que se consiga sin pena y sin trabajo > > > > es verdaderamente valioso." > > > > Joseph Addison > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > ICE Ernesto Arteaga Zavala > > > > Ingeniero de Desarrollo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- George Christman www.CarDaddy.com P.O. 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