HiveMind always had negative connotations in my mind as well.
I say de-emphasize Tapestry in Tapestry-IoC.
Just call it IoC.

I hate Spring myself, and anything that gets people off it is a good thing IMHO

On Sep 12, 2012, at 1:52 PM, Daniel Jue wrote:

> I'd say keep the same name but market the IOC more heavily, with tutorials
> and demos (a quickstart, perhaps) of it being used in a non web app.  (I
> don't think this is out there, right?  If it is, it wasn't in-my-face
> enough. :-)  )  A T5 IOC quickstart might work well with an Apache Shiro
> example, since that can also be used outside of a web app.
> 
> I use the T5 IOC as a major selling point to using T5 as a web framework,
> because they work so well together, and I'm loving the common version
> numbering.  HiveMind just makes me think of StarCraft. ;-)
> 
> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 12:26 PM, Howard Lewis Ship <hls...@gmail.com>wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 2:59 AM, Lance Java <lance.j...@googlemail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> I've often had a conversation like this in the workplace:
>>> 
>>> colleague: Let's start a new spring project
>>> me:          I hate spring, how about we use Tapestry IOC instead?
>>> colleague: Tapestry, isn't that a web framework?
>>> me:          Well... yes, but Tapestry (the web framework) is build on
>> top
>>> of Tapestry IOC which can be used without the web framework
>>> colleague: Oh, I didn't know that.
>> 
>> Maybe we could resurrect the HiveMind name?  I always loved that name!
>> 
>>> 
>>> Does anyone else think that Tapestry IOC should have it's own name? (and
>>> possibly it's own release cycle)
>> 
>> HiveMind had its own release cycle; this wasn't quite a disaster, but
>> it made things much more difficult. I really like that in Tapestry you
>> don't need a cheat sheet to figure out which versions of the main
>> libraries work together: they all have the same version number.  This
>> means that for some libraries that don't change from release to
>> release you have virtually identical binaries with different version
>> numbers, but that's more than acceptable to me.
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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