"It would be much longer though, so I wasn't sure if people would actually watch it."
I would!! I'm currently learning Tapestry, and it wouldn't bother me in the least if your tutorial took thirty minutes to play. Provided it covered important key concepts (e.g. Tapestry form -> Hibernate -> relational DB), and was technically correct (as per suggestions recently made by Howard and others). So, please do produce an update of your video. Best regards, Chris. > THanks for the suggestion. I was thinking about doing the same demo > program again, but this time spending more time explaining what is > going on. It would be much longer though, so I wasn't sure if people > would actually watch it. :) > > Mark > > On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 8:39 AM, Inge Solvoll <inge.tapes...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> Nice work, Mark! >> >> I have some feedback for you here: >> >> Tapestry is great because it enables me to work tiny iterations. These >> tiny >> iteratinos are enabled by live reloading and excellent error reporting. >> I >> use this to work in a TDD way (without actually doing TDD), adding one >> bit >> at a time and verifying its behaviour in the browser before continuing. >> Being used to that, I was a bit overwhelmed by your speed in this >> tutorial, >> adding lots of things before reloading in the browser. That approach >> might >> work very well for you, but probably not for beginners. >> >> I believe a lot of people out there are used to quite long development >> cycles. They are used to coding lots of lines before restarting the >> server >> and checking the GUI. Upon arrival in the T5 world, it might be hard to >> adjust quickly. Sure, everyone loves live class reloading and it works >> instantly. But do they understand how to get the full power out of it? >> I'll >> give a (hopefully understandable) example: If you ask your grandmother >> to >> send you an email, she might print it, put it in an envelope and go for >> a >> walk to the post office. Not what you intended when you provided her >> with >> the very effective tools necessary :) >> >> Don't get me wrong, I love this tutorial! Just wanted to write a few >> words >> about how I feel T5 could gain more popularity. Highly efficient tools >> aren't enought, we should also focus on showing a set of simple and >> simplifying techniques that makes it very hard to fail and very much fun >> to >> be a T5 programmer. Also for newbies :) >> >> On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 9:46 AM, Peter Stavrinides < >> p.stavrini...@albourne.com> wrote: >> >>> :) Excellent Mark! I know the feeling... does she also give the blank >>> expression? >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Mark" <mark-li...@xeric.net> >>> To: "Tapestry users" <users@tapestry.apache.org> >>> Sent: Wednesday, 16 February, 2011 23:25:47 GMT +02:00 Athens, Beirut, >>> Bucharest, Istanbul >>> Subject: Re: 10 Minute Web Application Demo >>> >>> I keep showing my wife, but she doesn't ever seem to get very excited >>> about it. :) >>> >>> On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Michael Gentry <mgen...@masslight.net> >>> wrote: >>> > Sure, but I don't general show people Tapestry 5 at home. I'll bet >>> > most of us don't do that, either. :-) >>> > >>> > mrg >>> > >>> > >>> > On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Christian Riedel >>> > <cr.ml...@googlemail.com> wrote: >>> >> don't you have internet at home? :p >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Am 16.02.2011 um 19:54 schrieb Michael Gentry: >>> >> >>> >>> That's not an option for some of us, either. :-) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 1:48 PM, Lenny Primak >>> <lpri...@hope.nyc.ny.us> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> That's what the your mobile device is for :) >>> >>>> >>> >>>> On Feb 16, 2011, at 1:47 PM, Michael Gentry wrote: >>> >>>> >>> >>>>> Hi Mark, >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Keep in mind that a lot of companies block YouTube access (and >>> other >>> >>>>> media sites), so putting it on YouTube might actually restrict >>> access >>> >>>>> more than you intended. >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> mrg >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org >>> >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org >>> >>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org >>> >>> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org >>> >> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org >>> >> >>> >> >>> > >>> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org >>> > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org >>> > >>> > >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org >>> >>> >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org
