THanks for the suggestion. I was thinking about doing the same demo program again, but this time spending more time explaining what is going on. It would be much longer though, so I wasn't sure if people would actually watch it. :)
Mark On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 8:39 AM, Inge Solvoll <inge.tapes...@gmail.com> wrote: > Nice work, Mark! > > I have some feedback for you here: > > Tapestry is great because it enables me to work tiny iterations. These tiny > iteratinos are enabled by live reloading and excellent error reporting. I > use this to work in a TDD way (without actually doing TDD), adding one bit > at a time and verifying its behaviour in the browser before continuing. > Being used to that, I was a bit overwhelmed by your speed in this tutorial, > adding lots of things before reloading in the browser. That approach might > work very well for you, but probably not for beginners. > > I believe a lot of people out there are used to quite long development > cycles. They are used to coding lots of lines before restarting the server > and checking the GUI. Upon arrival in the T5 world, it might be hard to > adjust quickly. Sure, everyone loves live class reloading and it works > instantly. But do they understand how to get the full power out of it? I'll > give a (hopefully understandable) example: If you ask your grandmother to > send you an email, she might print it, put it in an envelope and go for a > walk to the post office. Not what you intended when you provided her with > the very effective tools necessary :) > > Don't get me wrong, I love this tutorial! Just wanted to write a few words > about how I feel T5 could gain more popularity. Highly efficient tools > aren't enought, we should also focus on showing a set of simple and > simplifying techniques that makes it very hard to fail and very much fun to > be a T5 programmer. Also for newbies :) > > On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 9:46 AM, Peter Stavrinides < > p.stavrini...@albourne.com> wrote: > >> :) Excellent Mark! I know the feeling... does she also give the blank >> expression? >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mark" <mark-li...@xeric.net> >> To: "Tapestry users" <users@tapestry.apache.org> >> Sent: Wednesday, 16 February, 2011 23:25:47 GMT +02:00 Athens, Beirut, >> Bucharest, Istanbul >> Subject: Re: 10 Minute Web Application Demo >> >> I keep showing my wife, but she doesn't ever seem to get very excited >> about it. :) >> >> On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Michael Gentry <mgen...@masslight.net> >> wrote: >> > Sure, but I don't general show people Tapestry 5 at home. I'll bet >> > most of us don't do that, either. :-) >> > >> > mrg >> > >> > >> > On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Christian Riedel >> > <cr.ml...@googlemail.com> wrote: >> >> don't you have internet at home? :p >> >> >> >> >> >> Am 16.02.2011 um 19:54 schrieb Michael Gentry: >> >> >> >>> That's not an option for some of us, either. :-) >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 1:48 PM, Lenny Primak <lpri...@hope.nyc.ny.us> >> wrote: >> >>>> That's what the your mobile device is for :) >> >>>> >> >>>> On Feb 16, 2011, at 1:47 PM, Michael Gentry wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>>> Hi Mark, >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Keep in mind that a lot of companies block YouTube access (and other >> >>>>> media sites), so putting it on YouTube might actually restrict access >> >>>>> more than you intended. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> mrg >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org >> >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org >> >>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org >> >> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org >> >> >> >> >> > >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org >> > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org >> > >> > >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org >> >> > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org
