2010/11/21 Werner Keil <werner.k...@gmail.com>

> It got more than JSF [?]
>
> Although Oracle was to some extent present, since it was forced to change
> its name from JavaPolis, DevoXX hasn't been quite the same any more. While
> still called JavaPolis I noticed, the rather aggressive style of a Rails
> speaker, and it may not bee too surprising, All the (G)Rails & Co. style
> frameworks beside GWT and Spring were ranked higher here, too. Indeed, I
> only was asked to help one really large Tapestry project so far, but at
> least that one's for one of the largest *telcos *in the world [?] Competing
> only with *ATG*, the framework now taken over by Oracle. That is a move,
> Matt and others may not have considered at all, but the message behind it is
> clearly to compete with most of those listed here and vendors like vmware or
> Red Hat.
>

what do you mean with ATG here ? I don't understand.

>
> Btw, *Seam *was also not there, and putting a client-side solution like
> Flex together with more server-side ones including Tapestry is also a bit of
> Apples mixed with Pares.
>

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