> <markus.josc...@gmail.com> wrote: >> I don't think that this model will work for tapestry. Clojure is kind >> of a "deal breaker". It's unique in what it does. Tapestry is "just" >> one of many web frameworks and I guess you wont reach the critical >> mass of contributors to make a living out of it. > > Huh? I'm making a living on it NOW. I've been earning my living with > Tapestry since 2003. >
Don't get me wrong on this. It's certainly possible to live by consulting and implementation jobs as you provide solutions for business needs but I think that's not comparable with getting funded for creating a technical framework. For that you need a relatively large group of dedicated technical supporters. And because of the fractured webframework space I don't think the funding model works for web frameworks in general. But feel free to try. >> >> Regards, >> Markus >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 9:56 AM, ARD Marx Tobias >> <tobias.marx...@daserste.de> wrote: >>> You need the marketing of RubyOnRails for Tapestry - combined with a good >>> IDE >>> and "plugins" for common use-cases (e.g. authentication)...then more people >>> might >>> use Tapestry and the number of user-contribution rises. >>> >>> The best webframework is not very useful without a big community behind it. >>> Or: Even bad frameworks become useful if there is a big community behind it >>> as most frameworks and software live of user-contributed code. >>> >>> http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/cakephp.org >>> http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/rubyonrails.org >>> >>> http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/joomla.org >>> http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/drupal.org >>> >>> Also, from a business point of view, the bigger the market, the more >>> attractive >>> as specific framework...so there is many factors why "marketing" a framework >>> should not be underestimated. >>> >>> Just my 2 cents... >>> >>> Tobias >>> >>> >>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- >>> Von: Howard [mailto:hls...@gmail.com] >>> Gesendet: Monday, February 22, 2010 7:15 PM >>> An: users@tapestry.apache.org >>> Betreff: [Tapestry Central] March of Progress >>> >>> Or should that be "Late February of Progress". I have to say I'm a bit >>> envious right now of Rich Hickey ... I can see that he's continuing on >>> like a steam roller, extending and improving Clojure. I guess he's >>> having some success in generating Research and Design budget from >>> funding companies. I can see, following his threads, that he's working >>> on yet more concurrency metaphors for Clojure, which is a good thing >>> (though eventually there'll need to be a big book just to describe them >>> all). >>> I'm on a different track, in that I fund Tapestry out of pocket while >>> doing training and project work. In some cases, those merge, such as >>> when I add specific features to Tapestry for a specific client. >>> I'm of two minds here: doing project work keeps me grounded in real >>> requirements for Tapestry. I see what works really well, and what needs >>> some polishing. On the other hand, I come up with ideas for new >>> components, improvements, and integrations all the time and barely have >>> enough free time (between clients, ordinary Tapestry maintenance, and >>> this special project) to even document my ideas, never mind implement, >>> test and distribute them. >>> So, should I set up a funding option like Rich's? Well, that wouldn't >>> help my current clients (I'm committed to getting their apps into >>> production), but it may change how I would look for future work. >>> >>> -- >>> Posted By Howard to Tapestry Central at 2/22/2010 10:15:00 AM >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org >>> >>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org >> >> > > > > -- > Howard M. Lewis Ship > > Creator of Apache Tapestry > > The source for Tapestry training, mentoring and support. Contact me to > learn how I can get you up and productive in Tapestry fast! > > (971) 678-5210 > http://howardlewisship.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org
