On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 1:23 AM, Markus Joschko
<markus.josc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I don't think that this model will work for tapestry. Clojure is kind
> of a "deal breaker". It's unique in what it does. Tapestry is "just"
> one of many web frameworks and I guess you wont reach the critical
> mass of contributors to make a living out of it.

Huh?  I'm making a living on it NOW.  I've been earning my living with
Tapestry since 2003.


>
> Regards,
>  Markus
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 9:56 AM, ARD Marx Tobias
> <tobias.marx...@daserste.de> wrote:
>> You need the marketing of RubyOnRails for Tapestry - combined with a good IDE
>> and "plugins" for common use-cases (e.g. authentication)...then more people 
>> might
>> use Tapestry and the number of user-contribution rises.
>>
>> The best webframework is not very useful without a big community behind it.
>> Or: Even bad frameworks become useful if there is a big community behind it
>> as most frameworks and software live of user-contributed code.
>>
>> http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/cakephp.org
>> http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/rubyonrails.org
>>
>> http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/joomla.org
>> http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/drupal.org
>>
>> Also, from a business point of view, the bigger the market, the more 
>> attractive
>> as specific framework...so there is many factors why "marketing" a framework
>> should not be underestimated.
>>
>> Just my 2 cents...
>>
>> Tobias
>>
>>
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>> Betreff: [Tapestry Central] March of Progress
>>
>> Or should that be "Late February of Progress". I have to say I'm a bit
>> envious right now of Rich Hickey ... I can see that he's continuing on
>> like a steam roller, extending and improving Clojure. I guess he's
>> having some success in generating Research and Design budget from
>> funding companies. I can see, following his threads, that he's working
>> on yet more concurrency metaphors for Clojure, which is a good thing
>> (though eventually there'll need to be a big book just to describe them
>> all).
>> I'm on a different track, in that I fund Tapestry out of pocket while
>> doing training and project work. In some cases, those merge, such as
>> when I add specific features to Tapestry for a specific client.
>> I'm of two minds here: doing project work keeps me grounded in real
>> requirements for Tapestry. I see what works really well, and what needs
>> some polishing. On the other hand, I come up with ideas for new
>> components, improvements, and integrations all the time and barely have
>> enough free time (between clients, ordinary Tapestry maintenance, and
>> this special project) to even document my ideas, never mind implement,
>> test and distribute them.
>> So, should I set up a funding option like Rich's? Well, that wouldn't
>> help my current clients (I'm committed to getting their apps into
>> production), but it may change how I would look for future work.
>>
>> --
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