Just a thought : Wouldn't be the best solution to add some sort of wrapper for Prototype written in jQuery. That way Tapestry will be backward compatible, and have jQuery enabled.(Prototype functions would be executed with jQuery).
I'm not an expert for JavaScript so I'm not sure if this would be achievable, but IMHO it would the best possible solution. On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Howard Lewis Ship <hls...@gmail.com> wrote: > That last concept, JavaScript consolidation, is on the drawing board. > It will work especially well in the concert with the existing GZIP > compression. There's just a few things to work out, such as how to > properly handle components dynamically adding JavaScript libraries. > > On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Carl Crowder <carl.crow...@taptu.com> > wrote: > > I really like jQuery and I use it all the time in various Tapestry apps. > But > > it's trivial to use it with Tapestry due as you can just do $j = > > jQuery.noConflict() and use it as $j instead. Most jQuery libraries use > > "jQuery" instead of "$" so there are no conflicts. > > > > Although I prefer jQuery, I can't see much point in switching Tapestry to > it > > just to help people who might want to use it. Perhaps you could switch > > Tapestry so that the jQuery lib gets to use "$", but there's no need to > > rewrite everything. > > > > The other thing is that it would reduce HTTP request if you don't need to > > load jQuery /and/ prototype. But couldn't some filter just pile all of > the > > javascript required by a page into one script? Something like: > > > > <script src="tapestry_tmp_0981234.js" /> > > > > which is just all the js used in the order it was declared? That'd have > the > > same functionality, for less requests. Same goes for CSS. > > > > Carl > > > > Onno Scheffers wrote: > >> > >> On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Chris Lewis > >> <chris_le...@bellsouth.net>wrote: > >> > >>> that it is less than ideal for building front end widgets > >> > >> > >> > >> That's not true. As a matter of fact, jQuery is currently one of the > most > >> popular Javascript libraries for developing frontend widgets and I see > >> very > >> cool widgets popping up all over the place which I would love to turn > into > >> Tapestry libraries. > >> You'll ususally combine Prototype with Scriptaculous. You can use JQuery > >> with JQuery UI (http://ui.jquery.com). If you Google for jQuery widgets > >> you'll see endless lists of available widgets. See interface for example > ( > >> http://interface.eyecon.ro). > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>> If I'm mistaken about the abilities of jQuery, that is just my > >>> inexperience > >>> with it. The question I would propose is, what's the point? > >>> > >> > >> Well... I'm a Java developer with lots of jQuery experience. To me it > felt > >> like the entire world was shifting towards jQuery. Google uses jQuery > for > >> example (http://blog.jquery.com/2007/11/02/google-using-jquery/) and > >> Microsoft even officially wants to support it and ship it with Visual > >> Studio > >> ( > >> > >> > http://www.microsoft.com/web/content.aspx?id=microsoft-adopts-open-source-jQuery-JavaScript-library > >> ). > >> > >> So while I knew jQuery and around me everyone started using jQuery, I > had > >> to > >> go back, and learn Prototype since I'm usually the guy that does the > >> front-end web components and adding two web-frameworks seems like > >> overkill. > >> > >> This was actually a real concern for me when switching to Tapestry 5. > >> Prototype is a nice library, but in my opinion it's not nearly as nice > as > >> jQuery and it performs noticably slower as well. > >> > >> The problem is that switching to another framework now is that it would > >> probably would break 3rd party components and custom Javascript > components > >> already created in Tapestry projects. > >> > >> > >> regards, > >> > >> Onno > >> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org > > > > > > > > -- > Howard M. Lewis Ship > > Creator Apache Tapestry and Apache HiveMind > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tapestry.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@tapestry.apache.org > >
