Horrible, horrible, GridBagLayout.... I loathe it. What an awful mess. CSS is so many thousands of times nicer for doing layout....

I am sympathetic to the "applets not Javascript" argument, though. "Applets with CSS layout" would be especially nice.

But applets don't integrate well with the flow of the web: like Flash- based sites, you can't bookmark them, search engines can't index them, etc. There are limits to what they're good for. If there were a good way to attach Java to a page's DOM, then we'd be cooking.

I wonder how limited GWT is in this respect? Tapestry works very hard to respect the client's control of their browser.

P


On May 21, 2006, at 12:47 PM, Konstantin Ignatyev wrote:

http://www.swixml.org/
http://www.java2s.com/Product/Swing/LookAndFeel.htm

And Swing can support any kind of layout managers but I have found GridBagLayout to be very flexible and good for nearly everything I do with Swing.

Therefore I think it does not make sense to try (re)creating Swing in browsers. Applets is what we really need :).


Norbert S�ndor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:The good thing in GWT is to use the efficient development style of Swing
(I mean Java only, easy to debug/test) but allow to use the underlying
browser's HTML+CSS capatibilites for layout.



Konstantin Ignatyev




PS: If this is a typical day on planet earth, humans will add fifteen million tons of carbon to the atmosphere, destroy 115 square miles of tropical rainforest, create seventy-two miles of desert, eliminate between forty to one hundred species, erode seventy-one million tons of topsoil, add 2,700 tons of CFCs to the stratosphere, and increase their population by 263,000

Bowers, C.A. The Culture of Denial: Why the Environmental Movement Needs a Strategy for Reforming Universities and Public Schools. New York: State University of New York Press, 1997: (4) (5) (p.206)

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