On 7/29/2014 2:23 PM, Dave Warren wrote:
On 2014-07-29 13:29, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
On 7/29/2014 12:44 PM, David F. Skoll wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jul 2014 12:37:00 -0700
Ted Mittelstaedt<t...@ipinc.net> wrote:
Hotmail/MSN/Live/Microsoft/365/whatever-the-name-o-the-week-they-call-themselves
all have SIGNIFICANTLY BETTER spam filtering than
Spamassassin+free/public RBLs+some judicious blacklists.
My experience is only with Gmail. And I have to say: Gmail's spam
filtering is pretty darn good. I almost never get spam on my gmail.com
account and I almost never get false-positives either.
Yet you don't use your gmail address to post here - so how is this a
fair apples to apples comparison. It isn't. All you saying is - an
email address at gmail that I hardly use, doesn't get a lot of spam -
and an email address at roaringpenguin.com which I use all the time -
gets more spam.
Therefore google's spam filter is better?
I own (but don't use) my firstname.lastname over there, and a I get a
metric boatload of misdirected junk. I've narrowed it down to a couple
regular users who can't figure out their email address, one who was dumb
enough to have my address printed on his business cards (I got a
recipient of such a business card to send me a photo)
So while I don't personally use it everywhere, I have tons of people
that do spread it far and wide. I get Amazon orders, RMA status from
very legitimate companies, invitations to movie premieres, contact from
wanna-be actors, restaurant reservations, etc. All legit, from companies
that can't be bothered to verify user-supplied addresses. Plus I get the
fallout as these companies sell their lists, subscribe me thinking I'm a
customer, etc.
One day I got bored and started flagging this stuff as spam. Took just
about a month to get it under control (read: routed to my spam folder)
If spam filtering were the only consideration, I'd switch to Gmail
(well, Google Apps) in a heartbeat, and I'd figure out a way to make
money putting my customers over on Google Apps too.
There isn't such a way. I watched the large elephant Telcos do this
with the dialup ISPs with DSL.
The come-on was offering the dialup ISPs a way to interconnect to sell
DSL.
In the beginning, the ISPs were able to make money selling their data
Then the elephant Telcos jacked up access prices and the only offer
was a "wholesale/partnership" where the ex-dialup ISPs could "brand"
the Telco DSL and network connectivity as their own.
Then the Telcos undercut the partner prices and the old Dialup ISPs
were out of business.
The same thing today is going on with Google and Microsoft Office 365
Both companies offer street-level consultants "partnerships" and the
ability to brand their stuff.
But it only is a way of getting existing customers who perhaps have
a small network with Exchange 2003 running mail/file/print services,
into a Cloud-serviced customer, serviced by one of the 2.
I guarantee that 5 years from now Microsoft and Google will be dealing
direct with those people and the street-level consultants will be out
of the picture.
Eventually the business owner will be able to login to their Google Apps
interface, click on "provision a new employee" and a week later
UPS will deliver a fully configured HP or Dell, and that former
street level consultant who owned his own consultancy will now be a
minimum wage employee of Geek Squad, who will simply spend 20 minutes
setting up the machine, plugging it into the router, adjusting the
monitor, then turning it on and the rest of the work will be entirely
done remotely. And the Geek Squad guy will be fired if he mentions
"Linux" or anything other than the company line to the business owner.
That's the plan that these companies like Microsoft and Google have
designed. It's all about vendor lock-in.
Ted
But it isn't the only consideration.
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