On 2014-07-29 13:29, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:


On 7/29/2014 12:44 PM, David F. Skoll wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jul 2014 12:37:00 -0700
Ted Mittelstaedt<t...@ipinc.net>  wrote:

Hotmail/MSN/Live/Microsoft/365/whatever-the-name-o-the-week-they-call-themselves
all have SIGNIFICANTLY BETTER spam filtering than
Spamassassin+free/public RBLs+some judicious blacklists.

My experience is only with Gmail.  And I have to say: Gmail's spam
filtering is pretty darn good.  I almost never get spam on my gmail.com
account and I almost never get false-positives either.


Yet you don't use your gmail address to post here - so how is this a fair apples to apples comparison. It isn't. All you saying is - an email address at gmail that I hardly use, doesn't get a lot of spam - and an email address at roaringpenguin.com which I use all the time - gets more spam.

Therefore google's spam filter is better?

I own (but don't use) my firstname.lastname over there, and a I get a metric boatload of misdirected junk. I've narrowed it down to a couple regular users who can't figure out their email address, one who was dumb enough to have my address printed on his business cards (I got a recipient of such a business card to send me a photo)

So while I don't personally use it everywhere, I have tons of people that do spread it far and wide. I get Amazon orders, RMA status from very legitimate companies, invitations to movie premieres, contact from wanna-be actors, restaurant reservations, etc. All legit, from companies that can't be bothered to verify user-supplied addresses. Plus I get the fallout as these companies sell their lists, subscribe me thinking I'm a customer, etc.

One day I got bored and started flagging this stuff as spam. Took just about a month to get it under control (read: routed to my spam folder)

If spam filtering were the only consideration, I'd switch to Gmail (well, Google Apps) in a heartbeat, and I'd figure out a way to make money putting my customers over on Google Apps too.

But it isn't the only consideration.

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