On Sat, 2010-06-12 at 10:09 -0400, Andy Dills wrote:
> On Sat, 12 Jun 2010, Yet Another Ninja wrote:
> > > Because there is certainly no single IP generating 300,000 queries per
> > > day.
> >
> > That is probably your problem... use a central DNS resolver and your query
> > count will instantly decrease
> Those and a few others.
>
> That's why I'm asking how the limits are designed. In the past I had
You want to ask Spamhaus the question.
Btw, you did not answer my question *what* Spamhaus asked you about for
feedback. We cannot even tell if you're actually giving feedback
(publicly, without directing it to Spamhaus) or just venting opinions.
> problems a certain other blacklist wanting money. We were using a central
> resolver. Their thresholds were based on queries per IP, not network.
>
> Using a central resolver put us over their threshold. Distributing out to
> the individual servers put us under their threshold. I pointed out the
> silliness of this, as it actually increased overall traffic, but they
> weren't interested in my opinion, just my money. I would prefer to just
Well, Spamhaus uses the term "you". IIRC they are smart about usage, and
identifying users. As opposed to IPs.
Anyway, so you just said, that you deliberately traded off caching, to
fly under the free-usage terms of another service. In order not to pay.
Now this bites, because it generates more queries for another service.
Got to love that irony!
> rsync the data, resolve it locally and save everybody the hassle. But
> nooooo, that costs even more! Because remember, this isn't about defraying
> costs (reasonable), this is about generating revenue (reasonable, but not
> for a default-enabled option in free software).
You are exclusively using free as in free beer here. However, SA also is
free as in speech. You got the source (without paying a dime), and you
are allowed to modify the code. Please do so. We do not guarantee
anything. In particular, we do not guarantee that you can use all
supported features, enabled by default or not, without any further cost.
> I really just wish the various policies of the pseudo-free blacklists were
> all well-documented, so that sites can evaluate how best to conform, or if
> not, how to disable queries.
This is open source. Feel like contributing back something to the
project you are using? Like, maybe, some docs how to selectively disable
BLs, once you got your head wrapped around it...
> But then again, if it's well documented, they don't get a chance to
> generate sales leads!
Spamhaus does not use SA to generate sales. SA does not generate sales
for Spamhaus. Please stop repeating this claim.
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