On Sat, 2010-06-12 at 00:19 -0400, Andy Dills wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Jun 2010, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote:
> > The most important argument for me to keep it enabled by default is
> > simple. Small organizations and home users DO NOT have the knowledge and
> > admin power to care about all that stuff themselves. For them, SA should
> > work as good a possible out of the box. On the other hand, large
> > organizations that generate a *substantial* amount of BL queries per day
> > DO have the required power to tweak SA according to their specific needs
> > and environment.
>
> That's fair. Except, we're not a "large organization" by any stretch of
> the imagination.
More than 300.000 queries per day. And a "mail cluster", as you stated
in your OP.
No need to stretch the term "large". That's a throughput of more than 1
mail per second -- 100k SMTP connections per day. And that is without
any local caching at all. With caching, the throughput would be
considerably higher, before you ever cross the threshold and get on
their heavy-user radar.
> To be fair, they've contacted me asking for feedback, which I figured I
> would give publically:
May I ask what the question was? Feedback to what?
> As much as I respect that people should get compensated for their
> contributions, that doesn't negate the economics of value. What they're
> charging is unreasonable for the utility it provides.
You are free to disable BLs, enabled by default in the free product you
use -- SpamAssassin. Free as in both, beer and speech.
You are running a cluster dedicated to mail. You do have paid staff
caring about the machines and software. You didn't pay for SA, so it
isn't unreasonable for us to expect you to dedicate part of your paid
staff to tweak SA according to your specific needs and environment.
Actually, I can tell you did. There is pretty much no way a vanilla SA
would fit your environment and load without configuration changes. And
most likely, other services.
> DCC is a great example of how I think it should be handled. He has a free
> (to all) service, and a paid (to all) service. The free service in fact
> generates the data from which he determines the reputations of sending
> IPs, which is the basis of the paid service, so it's a win-win. The more
> people he has querying the free product, the more his paying customers
> benefit.
Spamhaus operates entirely different, and what you just outlined doesn't
apply at all. Not to mention it is irrelevant in the context of BLs
enabled by default.
guenther
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