On Tue, 2007-01-30 at 07:47 -0500, Joey wrote:

> OK I caught this at the end and I'm seeing 2 potential tools to reduce spam.
> 
> 1. is the non-answering host as the primary.   Correct me if I'm wrong but
> the delay would be almost non-exsistant because the time it takes for the
> connection to timeout is almost non-existant and would be better then
> greylisting which can cause huge delays based on sending servers not being
> correctly configured.
Not better, I think that the spams caught by this technic would have
being caught by greylist.  However, as they will not hit the greylist,
it means less memory and bandwidth waste.

> 
> 2. I see the tarpit of creating a high ranking MX which would capture
> information of spammers that would be dropped into a reject list.
I have seen legimate mail comming a hight mx, specially grupos.com.br
which is like yahoo groups.  However, legitimate mail here represents
2%-5% so far.
I would not just reject it, but penalise (+3 here) them in SA.


> I basically dropped greylisting last week because of the headaches it was
> causing with multiple sending smtp servers, and I have seen a huge increase
> in spam, method one here sounds like a great replacement.

Really?  what greylist implementation are you using?  milter-greylist
(which I am using) permits whitelisting of hosts/domains/ips, has an
autowhitelist for SPF enable servers, which covers most cases like the
one you mention.  

It has also an relax setting that after one mail in a host has being
whitelisted, it can enable all mails from that host, which would also
prevents your problem automatically in a few days. (I dont really like
this, though).

-Raul Dias


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