For there to be no Bayes score at all either bayes is turned off
completely or it has never had any training at all. Anything other than
an exact 0.50000 return gets a tag. Never training means bayes is
effectively turned off.

{^_-}
----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin W. Gagel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


The autolearn=no does not mean that bayes is turned off completely. It
means that it was not learned as spam or ham. Other messages will show that
they are learned as spam or ham and some that they are not learned.
----- Original Message -----
From: "jdow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I'm semi-asleep at the switch. The autolearn=no means you do indeed
have Bayes turned off or completely untrained. Very seriously, a well
trained Bayes is your BEST spam fighting friend. So are the rule sets
at http://www.rulesemporium.com/.

I am still back on 3.0.6. I have not had a stock spam get by the filters
in over a year. Both Bayes and the SARE rules I run seem to nail them.
But the SINGLE most RELIABLE spam catcher is BAYES_99 set to 5.0, per
user Bayes well trained, and spoon feeding salearn with known cases of
missed spam that do not contain a preponderance of unique words typical
for what I consider ham.

(I have gotten Bayes to the state that it has not flagged a single ham
in the last month while it has flagged about 90.65% of all spam. Likewise
BAYES_00 has flagged about 0.04% of spam and 81.17% of ham. This is on
about 100,000 messages over 10.5 weeks.)

{^_^}   Joanne
----- Original Message ----- From: "NW7US, Tomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Here are headers from another example of spam, that is marked STRONGLY
as   NOT being spam.  What is VERY interesting about THIS one, is that
it seems   to actually be FROM me!!!  However, it made its rounds on
other servers,   first.  Is it possible someone is spoofing my email
address??  Or, is   there a gateway e-mail hole on my server?

Here are the headers: (and, I deleted my whitelists, like the auto learn
  one, etc.)

Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on helios.hfradio.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-86.2 required=1.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,
                MIME_HTML_ONLY, MIME_HTML_ONLY_MULTI,
MPART_ALT_DIFF,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP,RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY,URIBL_JP_SURBL,URIBL_OB_SURBL,
                URIBL_SBL, URIBL_SC_SURBL,URIBL_WS_SURBL,
USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from 60.234.111.150 ([60.234.111.150]) by helios.hfradio.org
                (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k586UPVE019859 for
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 23:30:28 -0700 Envelope-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 18:36:11 +1200 Received: from [242.112.30.100] (helo=86678721) by 60.234.111.150 with smtp (Exim 4.60 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) id
  W3mNJ-2xnyDQA-8Kx for [EMAIL PROTECTED];                Thu, 08 Jun
2006 18:36:11 +1200 Received: from gallery48.freeserve.co.uk (02055232 [17238173668])
                by 124.1.211.112 (Qmailv1) with ESMTP id 0FJ2Y8TBN for
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 08 Jun 2006 17:36:07 +1200 Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2006 17:36:07 +1200 From: "Jon R. Pirrello Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Mailer: The Bat! (v2.12.00) Personal X-Priority: 3 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: General health store X-IMAPbase: 1148015368 4545 Status: O X-UID: 4545 Content-Length: 11005 X-Keywords: X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.1.394 [268.8.2/357] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart=mixed; b0undary="=======AVGMAIL-4487C4C83823======="

(I changed the last header, in case it might case a problem... the
message   has an attachment that contained a virus or trojan.)


I could really use some help in figuring out how to end this sort of activity.

Thanks,

73 de Tomas, NW7US ( http://ic-discipleship-ministries.org/ )

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