Kai Schaetzl wrote:
Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote on Thu, 08 Jun 2006 11:46:48 -0400:
Still, when your ISP isn't responsive
As Chris says you better move away from them then if you can. If you can't
I'd really bother them day and night since I don't get what I paid for. My
Over the years, for one company alone, I've spent well over a week on
hold with Bell attempting to get it resolved. They suck. It came to
the point where it really wasn't worth anymore of my time trying to get
them to do anything and was just easier and more cost effective to just
relay their few thousand messages a day through my own systems. If
their was another provider able to provide service they'd move in a second.
IP range was once listed at SORBS as well, three years ago or so. When I
contacted my upstream ISP they were already in contact with SORBS and it
all got sorted out within 48 hours. Mistakes can happen and I understand
that they cannot simply put addresses on the list that are *confirmed* to
be dynamic. If they don't know if something is dynamic or not, it's better
to get it listed once and remove it per request. That usually removes it
forever and broadens the covered range of addresses.
Don't get me wrong, I have no problem with SORBS, even their DUHL list.
Matt and his crew do a great job. I've never had a problem having IP
ranges that meet their criteria removed and have never had a problem
with getting any ISP (except for Bell) to conform to their criteria for
static IP ranges.
and it's the single option for
connectivity, it's your own fault too if you don't at least try to avoid
the problem by relaying your mail through a "cleaner" relay.
yes, of course. I was merely addressing the "you cannot rely on DUL lists"
theme.
I agree that outright blocking based on dynamic IP range lists often
doesn't suite a particular organizations needs. I was just pointing out
that some people do rely on these lists, often blindly, and that anyone
who is aware that they are on such a list and does nothing to avoid the
problems that it causes is also foolish.
Daryl
