Jdow wrote on Sat, 26 Nov 2005 04:56:19 -0800: > It appears Earthlink is rearranging a lot of their servers
<skipped the rest> I don't know what their outbound mail servers were yesterday or half a year ago or last year. I don't even know what their outbound mailservers are today. Calling them "popxx.domain" does sound weird to me, anyway. I wouldn't consider these names outgoing mail servers at first glance at all. Maybe you know. If they are rearranging things it's their duty to inform RBLs about changes. If they care. Considering the fact that they have been on NJABL with this range since 2003 they either don't care or that was indeed a DUL range in the past. > I am not in the least sure how you figure it is Earthlink's fault > that some BLs have totally spurious determinations for open relay > and dial up. I didn't say that. I didn't make any connection to a specific requirement or other RBLs. It's Earthlink's fault for two reasons and I already explained both in my earlier posting and the first one just again a few lines above. And I do it again for the second reason. They have been with this range on DUL lists for a long time. It doesn't matter because of what reason. It may just be a mistake or for a good reason. Doesn't matter at all. If that was or is wrong they had enough time to contact the RBL. I'm not Earthlink and I'm not going to speculate what they did, but to any outsider it appears that they don't care. Talk to them and ask them. You bark at the wrong tree. For example, how can a server that requires encrypted > username and password be considered an open relay by any stretch > of the imagination? You mix two things. A DUL RBL is not at all about open relays. As for the theory > that they have declared that any address block with a 1/2 hour TTL > is "obviously" a "dialup" block I note that this is PRECISELY the > recommended practice when making address changes or for maintenance > purposes So, are you saying that they do "address changes" or "maintenance" for two years in a row and they never do maintenance on their "real" static assignments? I'm quite convinced that they would not have *any* problem to comply with SORBS requirements and still keep whatever rotating practice they have for POP3 with minimal effort. It's just that they don't seem to care. Go ask them. It's always the same. People are using RBLs for years and then one day they find that either they or their ISP is on a list or an ISP which sends lots of mail to them or their customers is on the list. And suddenly they start complaining and go to the extreme. They used that RBL for years happily and avoided thousands or millions of spam and viruses and suddenly they complain without even thinking about the reasons. And, of course, it's *never* the fault of the ISP, but always the RBL's. Suddenly it's *evil* and they want to convince the whole world that it is *evil*. This is just stupid. We see this complaint on this list every few months or so and you are long enough on this list to have seen it often enough. You could have avoided repeating that. > Best drop that complaint, Kai. Why should I? Asking for a readable mail is reasonable. And as I see you just complied to my request. Thanks. Kai -- Kai Schätzl, Berlin, Germany Get your web at Conactive Internet Services: http://www.conactive.com IE-Center: http://ie5.de & http://msie.winware.org
