I see QTime values between 3 and 18. And the time it takes till the response is 
received by the client is around 30 higher. Does that mean that network adds 
about 30ms to the request?

Thanks in advance.

Mihael


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Next things I would investigate:

  *   Is this (at least partially) reproducible outside of this k6 tool, e.g. 
just sending a few requests using curl?
  *   What does the response look like, is there a difference in Solr's 
reported QTime between the standalone vs. SolrCloud setup?
Good luck
Matthias


On Tue, Dec 3, 2024 at 2:11 PM Schmidt, Mihael 
<mschm...@bauformat.de<mailto:mschm...@bauformat.de>> wrote:
Hi Matthias,

the tests were done with k6 (k6.io<http://k6.io>) from a server which is on the 
same LAN as all the targeted servers. I did tests with single and multiple 
virtual users. The results were all the same. Average response time around 50ms 
from the Solr cluster setup.

Request looks like: 
https://server/solr-cluster/mdm/select?q=clazz%3Axyz%20AND%20businessId%3A320987

The businessId is randomly chosen from 10000 existing ids. So it is not always 
the same one queried.

Each document in the returned JSON has about a dozen attributes and a total of 
about 400 characters.

Hope it helps in analyzing it.

Thanks in advance

Mihael



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We have a standalone Solr instance and want to move to a Solr cluster. We don’t 
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the performance of the standalone Solr instance. We have made some tests with 
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http_req_duration..............: avg=1.81ms   min=1ms      med=1.6ms    
max=238.55ms p(90)=2.27ms   
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