Thanks a lot for taking time to answer.

I'll have to figure out a work around, decreasing mm is not an option for
me, maybe use a boost for this extra field.

Best regards,
Elisabeth

Le mar. 14 nov. 2023 à 12:05, Mikhail Khludnev <m...@apache.org> a écrit :

> Ok. Right
> (one two three four five six seven)~7 means match all of them ie in fact
> +one
> +two +three +four +five +six +seven
> Here we can see that how dismax handles fields with different analyzers is
> far from perfection.
> You can either decrease mm
>
> https://solr.apache.org/guide/6_6/the-dismax-query-parser.html#TheDisMaxQueryParser-Themm_MinimumShouldMatch_Parameter
> or experiment with mm.autoRelax=true
>
> https://solr.apache.org/guide/6_6/the-extended-dismax-query-parser.html#TheExtendedDisMaxQueryParser-Themm.autoRelaxParameter
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 10:33 PM elisabeth benoit <
> elisaelisael...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > okay, thanks, for the answer. the thing is
> >
> > when there is no *wordf**ield* in the *qf* param, but only *edgefield1*
> and
> > *edgefield2*, I get this parsedQuery
> >
> > parsedQuery =
> >  +(DisjunctionMaxQuery(((edgefield1:musee)^1.1 | edgefield2:musee))
> >  DisjunctionMaxQuery(((edgefield1:maillol)^1.1 | edgefield2:maillol))
> >  DisjunctionMaxQuery(((edgefield1:61)^1.1 | edgefield2:61))
> >  DisjunctionMaxQuery(((edgefield1:r)^1.1 | edgefield2:r))
> >  DisjunctionMaxQuery(((edgefield1:grenelle)^1.1 | edgefield2:grenelle))
> >  DisjunctionMaxQuery(((edgefield1:75007)^1.1 | edgefield2:75007))
> >  DisjunctionMaxQuery(((edgefield1:paris)^1.1 | edgefield2:paris)))~7
> >
> > and SolR does return documents
> >
> > but when I have instead* wordf**ield* and *edgefield* in *qf*,  I get
> this
> > parsedQuery
> >
> > parsedQuery =
> > >  "+DisjunctionMaxQuery((((wordfield:musee wordfield:maillol
> wordfield:61
> > >  Synonym(wordfield:r wordfield:ru wordfield:rue) wordfield:grenelle
> > >  wordfield:75007 wordfield:paris)~7)^1.1 | ((edgefield:musee
> > > edgefield:maillol
> > >  edgefield:61 edgefield:r edgefield:grenelle edgefield:75007
> > > edgefield:paris)~7)))"
> >
> > and SolR does not return any documents.
> >
> > That is what makes me thing there is something wrong with the second
> > parsedQuery.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Elisabeth
> >
> >
> >
> > Le lun. 13 nov. 2023 à 20:15, Mikhail Khludnev <m...@apache.org> a
> écrit :
> >
> > > >
> > > >  the first case listed in my mail
> > > > parsedQuery =
> > > >  "+DisjunctionMaxQuery((((wordfield:musee wordfield:maillol
> > wordfield:61
> > > >  Synonym(wordfield:r wordfield:ru wordfield:rue) wordfield:grenelle
> > > >  wordfield:75007 wordfield:paris)~7)^1.1 | ((edgefield:musee
> > > > edgefield:maillol
> > > >  edgefield:61 edgefield:r edgefield:grenelle edgefield:75007
> > > > edgefield:paris)~7)))"
> > >
> > >
> > > > The OR is different, it is all words must match wordfield OR all
> words
> > > must
> > > > match edgefield, but no mix between the two fields are allowed.
> > >
> > >
> > > It doesn't work this way. These two queries differs only in
> > scoring/results
> > > ordering. i.e
> > > this query matches  docs: {wordfield:musee, edgefield:musee} as well
> as {
> > > wordfield:musee,edgefield:maillol},   {wordfield:musee}, {
> > > edgefield:maillol}.
> > > This explanation might be useful
> > > https://lucidworks.com/post/solr-boolean-operators/
> > > Note: DisMax works like OR/| but takes max instead of sum as a score.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 7:21 PM elisabeth benoit <
> > > elisaelisael...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for your answer.
> > > >
> > > > I mean that in the second case listed in my mail, the query is
> > > > parsedQuery =
> > > >  +(DisjunctionMaxQuery(((edgefield1:musee)^1.1 | edgefield2:musee))
> > > >  DisjunctionMaxQuery(((edgefield1:maillol)^1.1 | edgefield2:maillol))
> > > >  DisjunctionMaxQuery(((edgefield1:61)^1.1 | edgefield2:61))
> > > >  DisjunctionMaxQuery(((edgefield1:r)^1.1 | edgefield2:r))
> > > >  DisjunctionMaxQuery(((edgefield1:grenelle)^1.1 |
> edgefield2:grenelle))
> > > >  DisjunctionMaxQuery(((edgefield1:75007)^1.1 | edgefield2:75007))
> > > >  DisjunctionMaxQuery(((edgefield1:paris)^1.1 | edgefield2:paris)))~7
> > > >
> > > > and so the way I read it is "musee" can match edgefield1 OR
> edgefield2,
> > > > "maillol" can match edgefield1 OR edgefield2, and so on, so solr can
> > > return
> > > > a doc where some query words match with edgefield1 and some other
> query
> > > > words with edgefield2.
> > > >
> > > > But in the first case listed in my mail
> > > >
> > > > parsedQuery =
> > > >  "+DisjunctionMaxQuery((((wordfield:musee wordfield:maillol
> > wordfield:61
> > > >  Synonym(wordfield:r wordfield:ru wordfield:rue) wordfield:grenelle
> > > >  wordfield:75007 wordfield:paris)~7)^1.1 | ((edgefield:musee
> > > > edgefield:maillol
> > > >  edgefield:61 edgefield:r edgefield:grenelle edgefield:75007
> > > > edgefield:paris)~7)))"
> > > >
> > > > The OR is different, it is all words must match wordfield OR all
> words
> > > must
> > > > match edgefield, but no mix between the two fields are allowed.
> > > >
> > > > So I cannot search both fields at the same time.
> > > >
> > > > I hope this is clear!
> > > >
> > > > I would like to search both fields in same query.
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > > Elisabeth
> > > >
> > > > Le lun. 13 nov. 2023 à 17:02, Mikhail Khludnev <m...@apache.org> a
> > > écrit :
> > > >
> > > > > Hello Elisabeth.
> > > > > DisMax analyses user input across the given qf fields. If the
> number
> > of
> > > > > resulting tokens are different it can't apply defaults logic - per
> > word
> > > > sum
> > > > > over per field maximums; and flips to max over sums. The good news
> is
> > > > that
> > > > > the difference between two approaches is only scoring.
> > > > > WDYM exactly by absence of "matching words to be in two different
> > > > fields"?
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 5:01 PM elisabeth benoit <
> > > > > elisaelisael...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am using solr 7.3.1 with ExtendedDismaxQParser.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have a edgengrams field and a normal text field. When I mix
> those
> > > two
> > > > > in
> > > > > > the same query, ie *qf=edgefield wordfield* and use option
> > > > > *debugQuery=on*,
> > > > > > I see that the parsedQuery is different, ie all words should
> match
> > > the
> > > > > same
> > > > > > field.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ie parsedQuery =
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "+DisjunctionMaxQuery((((wordfield:musee wordfield:maillol
> > > wordfield:61
> > > > > > Synonym(wordfield:r wordfield:ru wordfield:rue)
> wordfield:grenelle
> > > > > > wordfield
> > > > > > :75007 wordfield:paris)~7)^1.1 | ((edgefield:musee
> > edgefield:maillol
> > > > > > edgefield:61 edgefield:r edgefield:grenelle edgefield:75007
> > edgefield
> > > > > > :paris)~7)))"
> > > > > >
> > > > > > When instead I use two edgefields with *qf=**edgefield1
> > **edgefield2*
> > > > > >
> > > > > > parsedQuery =
> > > > > > +(DisjunctionMaxQuery(((edgefield1:musee)^1.1 |
> edgefield2:musee))
> > > > > > DisjunctionMaxQuery(((edgefield1:maillol)^1.1 |
> > edgefield2:maillol))
> > > > > > DisjunctionMaxQuery(((edgefield1:61)^1.1 | edgefield2:61))
> > > > > > DisjunctionMaxQuery(((edgefield1:r)^1.1 | edgefield2:r))
> > > > > > DisjunctionMaxQuery(((edgefield1:grenelle)^1.1 |
> > > edgefield2:grenelle))
> > > > > > DisjunctionMaxQuery(((edgefield1:75007)^1.1 | edgefield2:75007))
> > > > > > DisjunctionMaxQuery(((edgefield1:paris)^1.1 |
> edgefield2:paris)))~7
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In the second case, edismax allows matching words to be in two
> > > > different
> > > > > > fields, but not in first case.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is there a way to have the same behaviour, ie case two, in all
> > cases?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > best regards,
> > > > > > Elisabeth
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Sincerely yours
> > > > > Mikhail Khludnev
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Sincerely yours
> > > Mikhail Khludnev
> > >
> >
>
>
> --
> Sincerely yours
> Mikhail Khludnev
>

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