Hey, thanks a lot for your help.
I just added

t.setPage(page);

in my method addAnnotation
Do you think it should be added in pdfbox when we do :

page.setAnnotations(annotations);


Le sam. 17 déc. 2022 à 20:01, Frédéric Ravetier <fravet...@vikta.com> a
écrit :

> Thanks a lot for your help.
>
> Have a good weekend
>
> I am afraid that I am not going to get an answer...
>
> Le sam. 17 déc. 2022, 14:47, Tilman Hausherr <thaush...@t-online.de> a
> écrit :
>
>> I thought the visual / non visual signature isn't the problem, that there
>> is some unknown difference between what you use for the second signature
>> and what I use, but then...
>>
>> It just got weirder! I reopened the file I mentioned in my last post and
>> now it looks like this:
>>
>> This is definitively some Adobe weirdness. You should report it there.
>> Alternatively / Additionally, try asking on stackoverflow or related site
>> if anybody has an idea what happened.
>>
>> Tilman
>>
>> On 17.12.2022 13:51, Frédéric Ravetier wrote:
>>
>> Thanks again.
>>
>> Yes sorry, the test is not exactly the same, because our tool is now
>> using visual signature. If necessary I can change the code to have
>> invisible signature...
>>
>> What can I do to go forward or help or...?
>>
>> Le sam. 17 déc. 2022, 13:43, Tilman Hausherr <thaush...@t-online.de> a
>> écrit :
>>
>>> Thanks for trying this. This time the first signature is a visual
>>> signature. The stamp annotation object is 129, and my analysis is the same:
>>> that object was never provided in another incremental save, so I don't know
>>> why Adobe claims it was changed.
>>>
>>> And it gets weirder:
>>> I used NOTEPAD++ to get the previous revision of your last document.
>>> Then I signed that one with PDFBox example (latest 3.0 snapshot) and I
>>> don't have the effect you mention, only a complaint that my signature is
>>> self-certified.
>>>
>>>
>>> Tilman
>>>
>>> On 17.12.2022 12:54, Frédéric Ravetier wrote:
>>>
>>> So I tried again with a PDF without a signature.
>>> I switch the jar on the tool that sign the PDF to use the snapshot
>>> I send the pdf to the tool to have a first signature
>>> I used my java program to add an annotation
>>> I send again the pdf to the tool for a second signature
>>>
>>> I still have the same behavior :(.
>>> This is the final PDF 
>>> :https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CV7lJ8dY1gDcx3rgHoW5yHJ612JSAK9B/view?usp=share_link
>>>
>>>
>>> Le sam. 17 déc. 2022 à 12:27, Frédéric Ravetier <fravet...@vikta.com> 
>>> <fravet...@vikta.com> a
>>> écrit :
>>>
>>>
>>> OK so my test was useless. I will try again
>>>
>>> Le sam. 17 déc. 2022, 11:30, Tilman Hausherr <thaush...@t-online.de> 
>>> <thaush...@t-online.de> a
>>> écrit :
>>>
>>>
>>> On 17.12.2022 11:19, Frédéric Ravetier wrote:
>>>
>>> Maybe I did not understand well.
>>>
>>> Should I use the snapshot version before the first signature ?
>>>
>>> You should use the snapshot to create the first signature, that's what I
>>> meant.
>>>
>>> My hope is that this Adobe behavior is related to that bug.
>>>
>>> No, the bug fix does not help with a document that already has that
>>> signature.
>>>
>>> Tilman
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Or the goal of the bug fix is to manage a document that contains this
>>>
>>> kind
>>>
>>> of initial signature which is invisible ? (which was my test, so it
>>>
>>> means
>>>
>>> the bug is not fix, or I did not test it correctly or this is another
>>>
>>> use
>>>
>>> case)
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Fred
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Le sam. 17 déc. 2022 à 05:16, Tilman Hausherr <thaush...@t-online.de> 
>>> <thaush...@t-online.de> a
>>> écrit :
>>>
>>>
>>> That new PDF also has that the initial signature does not appear in the
>>> page annotations (which was the bug fixed in the issue).
>>>
>>> Tilman
>>>
>>> On 16.12.2022 20:56, Frédéric Ravetier wrote:
>>>
>>> I tried to switch the jar on the environment where there is the
>>>
>>> application
>>>
>>> that sign the PDF in order to use the snapshot.
>>> Here the pdf I got :
>>>
>>>
>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zwV0i3SCQrqxRICpVWhbR09Of2FD0Ur7/view?usp=sharing
>>>
>>> But it looks the same in acrobat :(.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Fred
>>>
>>> Le ven. 16 déc. 2022 à 13:19, Frédéric Ravetier <fravet...@vikta.com> 
>>> <fravet...@vikta.com>
>>>
>>> a
>>>
>>> écrit :
>>>
>>>
>>> I read the issue too quickly.
>>> The problem is on DSS side, and the jar file should be modified on my
>>> provider side. I will see if we can perform this test on a dev
>>>
>>> environment.
>>>
>>> Le ven. 16 déc. 2022 à 13:06, Tilman Hausherr <thaush...@t-online.de> 
>>> <thaush...@t-online.de>
>>>
>>> a
>>>
>>> écrit :
>>>
>>>
>>> On 16.12.2022 12:59, Frédéric Ravetier wrote:
>>>
>>> Good idea, I can try to use the latest snapshot jar. Is there a
>>> snapshot build (jar) available?
>>>
>>> https://repository.apache.org/content/groups/snapshots/org/apache/pdfbox/pdfbox-app/2.0.28-SNAPSHOT/
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