Thanks again.

Yes sorry, the test is not exactly the same, because our tool is now using
visual signature. If necessary I can change the code to have invisible
signature...

What can I do to go forward or help or...?

Le sam. 17 déc. 2022, 13:43, Tilman Hausherr <thaush...@t-online.de> a
écrit :

> Thanks for trying this. This time the first signature is a visual
> signature. The stamp annotation object is 129, and my analysis is the same:
> that object was never provided in another incremental save, so I don't know
> why Adobe claims it was changed.
>
> And it gets weirder:
> I used NOTEPAD++ to get the previous revision of your last document. Then
> I signed that one with PDFBox example (latest 3.0 snapshot) and I don't
> have the effect you mention, only a complaint that my signature is
> self-certified.
>
>
> Tilman
>
> On 17.12.2022 12:54, Frédéric Ravetier wrote:
>
> So I tried again with a PDF without a signature.
> I switch the jar on the tool that sign the PDF to use the snapshot
> I send the pdf to the tool to have a first signature
> I used my java program to add an annotation
> I send again the pdf to the tool for a second signature
>
> I still have the same behavior :(.
> This is the final PDF 
> :https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CV7lJ8dY1gDcx3rgHoW5yHJ612JSAK9B/view?usp=share_link
>
>
> Le sam. 17 déc. 2022 à 12:27, Frédéric Ravetier <fravet...@vikta.com> 
> <fravet...@vikta.com> a
> écrit :
>
>
> OK so my test was useless. I will try again
>
> Le sam. 17 déc. 2022, 11:30, Tilman Hausherr <thaush...@t-online.de> 
> <thaush...@t-online.de> a
> écrit :
>
>
> On 17.12.2022 11:19, Frédéric Ravetier wrote:
>
> Maybe I did not understand well.
>
> Should I use the snapshot version before the first signature ?
>
>
> You should use the snapshot to create the first signature, that's what I
> meant.
>
> My hope is that this Adobe behavior is related to that bug.
>
> No, the bug fix does not help with a document that already has that
> signature.
>
> Tilman
>
>
>
> Or the goal of the bug fix is to manage a document that contains this
>
> kind
>
> of initial signature which is invisible ? (which was my test, so it
>
> means
>
> the bug is not fix, or I did not test it correctly or this is another
>
> use
>
> case)
>
> Thanks
> Fred
>
>
>
> Le sam. 17 déc. 2022 à 05:16, Tilman Hausherr <thaush...@t-online.de> 
> <thaush...@t-online.de> a
> écrit :
>
>
> That new PDF also has that the initial signature does not appear in the
> page annotations (which was the bug fixed in the issue).
>
> Tilman
>
> On 16.12.2022 20:56, Frédéric Ravetier wrote:
>
> I tried to switch the jar on the environment where there is the
>
> application
>
> that sign the PDF in order to use the snapshot.
> Here the pdf I got :
>
>
>  
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zwV0i3SCQrqxRICpVWhbR09Of2FD0Ur7/view?usp=sharing
>
> But it looks the same in acrobat :(.
>
> Best regards,
> Fred
>
> Le ven. 16 déc. 2022 à 13:19, Frédéric Ravetier <fravet...@vikta.com> 
> <fravet...@vikta.com>
>
> a
>
> écrit :
>
>
> I read the issue too quickly.
> The problem is on DSS side, and the jar file should be modified on my
> provider side. I will see if we can perform this test on a dev
>
> environment.
>
> Le ven. 16 déc. 2022 à 13:06, Tilman Hausherr <thaush...@t-online.de> 
> <thaush...@t-online.de>
>
> a
>
> écrit :
>
>
> On 16.12.2022 12:59, Frédéric Ravetier wrote:
>
> Good idea, I can try to use the latest snapshot jar. Is there a
> snapshot build (jar) available?
>
>   
> https://repository.apache.org/content/groups/snapshots/org/apache/pdfbox/pdfbox-app/2.0.28-SNAPSHOT/
>
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