...and, as I told Jeff on the phone, I already signed up to implement it for 
the 1.7 series :-)

Should get to it next week. In the interim, you could access that data directly 
from the ORTE structures, but it would be a tad ugly - probably easier for me 
to get this implemented for you if your timing can wait.


On Aug 10, 2012, at 2:42 PM, Jeff Squyres <jsquy...@cisco.com> wrote:

> Ah, I was wrong: it wasn't Adam Moody -- it was Marc Snir's proposal.  It's 
> MPI Forum 3.0 ticket #313:
> 
>    https://svn.mpi-forum.org/trac/mpi-forum-web/ticket/313
> 
> Download the 313.pdf to see the changes for this proposal.  It did pass and 
> will be part of MPI-3.0.
> 
> Basically, MPI now defines a pre-defined MPI_Info object named MPI_INFO_ENV 
> containing the information that you are looking for.
> 
> ***NOTE: the MPI_INFO_ENV name is different than what is shown in the 313.pdf 
> -- see the MPI-3 draft doc document for the final/official text: 
> http://meetings.mpi-forum.org/MPI_3.0_main_page.php).
> 
> 
> 
> On Aug 10, 2012, at 4:45 PM, Jeff Squyres wrote:
> 
>> I swear that there was an MPI-3 proposal for just about exactly this issue 
>> (because there is currently no MPI-standardized way to get this information).
>> 
>> I honestly don't remember what happened to this proposal, but I know who 
>> made it (Adam Moody, from Livermore).  I've just pinged him off list to find 
>> out what happened to that proposal.
>> 
>> Stay tuned...
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 10, 2012, at 1:50 PM, Frank Kampe wrote:
>> 
>>> OK.  I think I am not being clear and am using the wrong terms.  For 
>>> example, suppose we launch and MPMD job:
>>> 
>>> mpirun -np 1 a.out : -np 8 a.out2 : -np 512 a.out3
>>> 
>>> There are three "instances" invoked here---that's info item(1).  In other 
>>> words, how many executables are started.  Given MPMD mode, the entire set 
>>> of apps belong to the same MPI_COMM_WORLD. So, MPI Task 0 is the MPI rank 
>>> of the process executing a.out, MPI Task 1 is the 1st MPI rank for 
>>> process(s) executing a.out2, and Task 9 is the 1st MPI rank for 
>>> processes(s) executing a.out3.  That's the info in item (2) below.  Finally 
>>> number of tasks for instance 1 is 1, for instance 2 is 8, and for instance 
>>> 3 is 512---that's item (3).
>>> 
>>> What user-callable interface does OpenMPI provide to get that information 
>>> in a.out, a.out2, and a.out3 during run-time?
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> 
>>> ________________________________________
>>> From: users-boun...@open-mpi.org [users-boun...@open-mpi.org] on behalf of 
>>> Ralph Castain [r...@open-mpi.org]
>>> Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 12:00 PM
>>> To: Open MPI Users
>>> Subject: Re: [OMPI users] User Interface for MPMD
>>> 
>>> I gather you don't want to use the MPI calls to get it? Perhaps it would 
>>> help if we understood a little more about what you are trying to do.
>>> 
>>> Or maybe we just aren't understanding the term "instance" - e.g., for #1, 
>>> you want to know how many processes are executing in the job, yes?
>>> 
>>> If that's correct, then the second question doesn't make sense to me - so 
>>> I'm a little lost.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Aug 10, 2012, at 9:49 AM, Frank Kampe <u2...@cray.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> No.  I am looking for a user-callable function that will return 
>>>> information about the running OpenMPI MPMD program from within the running 
>>>> program---the information listed below in (1) -- (3).
>>>> 
>>>> ________________________________________
>>>> From: users-boun...@open-mpi.org [users-boun...@open-mpi.org] on behalf of 
>>>> Ralph Castain [r...@open-mpi.org]
>>>> Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 11:15 AM
>>>> To: Open MPI Users
>>>> Subject: Re: [OMPI users] User Interface for MPMD
>>>> 
>>>> I'm actually not sure I understand the question - are you talking about a 
>>>> programmatic API where an application wants to spawn an MPI program? Or an 
>>>> inter-program communication API that wants to tell another program some 
>>>> information? Or an API by which the app can tell MPI "I'm going to spawn N 
>>>> threads"? Or...?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Aug 10, 2012, at 9:00 AM, Gus Correa <g...@ldeo.columbia.edu> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 08/10/2012 11:31 AM, Frank Kampe wrote:
>>>>>> Are there any user level APIs to provide the following information to a 
>>>>>> running OpenMPI MPMD program:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> (1) Number of executable instances
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> (2) 1st MPI Task rank of each instance
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> (3) Number of MPI Tasks per instance
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thank You
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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>>>>> Hi Frank
>>>>> Check 'man mpiexec', the --app file option, maybe also --rankfile.
>>>>> The on process binding at the end may also help.
>>>>> I hope this helps,
>>>>> Gus Correa
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