I swear that there was an MPI-3 proposal for just about exactly this issue 
(because there is currently no MPI-standardized way to get this information).

I honestly don't remember what happened to this proposal, but I know who made 
it (Adam Moody, from Livermore).  I've just pinged him off list to find out 
what happened to that proposal.

Stay tuned...



On Aug 10, 2012, at 1:50 PM, Frank Kampe wrote:

> OK.  I think I am not being clear and am using the wrong terms.  For example, 
> suppose we launch and MPMD job:
> 
> mpirun -np 1 a.out : -np 8 a.out2 : -np 512 a.out3
> 
> There are three "instances" invoked here---that's info item(1).  In other 
> words, how many executables are started.  Given MPMD mode, the entire set of 
> apps belong to the same MPI_COMM_WORLD. So, MPI Task 0 is the MPI rank of the 
> process executing a.out, MPI Task 1 is the 1st MPI rank for process(s) 
> executing a.out2, and Task 9 is the 1st MPI rank for processes(s) executing 
> a.out3.  That's the info in item (2) below.  Finally number of tasks for 
> instance 1 is 1, for instance 2 is 8, and for instance 3 is 512---that's item 
> (3).
> 
> What user-callable interface does OpenMPI provide to get that information in 
> a.out, a.out2, and a.out3 during run-time?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> ________________________________________
> From: users-boun...@open-mpi.org [users-boun...@open-mpi.org] on behalf of 
> Ralph Castain [r...@open-mpi.org]
> Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 12:00 PM
> To: Open MPI Users
> Subject: Re: [OMPI users] User Interface for MPMD
> 
> I gather you don't want to use the MPI calls to get it? Perhaps it would help 
> if we understood a little more about what you are trying to do.
> 
> Or maybe we just aren't understanding the term "instance" - e.g., for #1, you 
> want to know how many processes are executing in the job, yes?
> 
> If that's correct, then the second question doesn't make sense to me - so I'm 
> a little lost.
> 
> 
> On Aug 10, 2012, at 9:49 AM, Frank Kampe <u2...@cray.com> wrote:
> 
>> No.  I am looking for a user-callable function that will return information 
>> about the running OpenMPI MPMD program from within the running program---the 
>> information listed below in (1) -- (3).
>> 
>> ________________________________________
>> From: users-boun...@open-mpi.org [users-boun...@open-mpi.org] on behalf of 
>> Ralph Castain [r...@open-mpi.org]
>> Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 11:15 AM
>> To: Open MPI Users
>> Subject: Re: [OMPI users] User Interface for MPMD
>> 
>> I'm actually not sure I understand the question - are you talking about a 
>> programmatic API where an application wants to spawn an MPI program? Or an 
>> inter-program communication API that wants to tell another program some 
>> information? Or an API by which the app can tell MPI "I'm going to spawn N 
>> threads"? Or...?
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 10, 2012, at 9:00 AM, Gus Correa <g...@ldeo.columbia.edu> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 08/10/2012 11:31 AM, Frank Kampe wrote:
>>>> Are there any user level APIs to provide the following information to a 
>>>> running OpenMPI MPMD program:
>>>> 
>>>> (1) Number of executable instances
>>>> 
>>>> (2) 1st MPI Task rank of each instance
>>>> 
>>>> (3) Number of MPI Tasks per instance
>>>> 
>>>> Thank You
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>> Hi Frank
>>> Check 'man mpiexec', the --app file option, maybe also --rankfile.
>>> The on process binding at the end may also help.
>>> I hope this helps,
>>> Gus Correa
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