Hi Reuti

Can you replicate this problem on your machine? Can you try it with 1.5?

Afraid I don't have a way to replicate it, and as I said, wouldn't fix it for 
the 1.4 series anyway. I'm not seeing this problem elsewhere, but I don't 
generally get an allocation that varies across nodes.

Ralph

On Apr 10, 2012, at 11:57 AM, Reuti wrote:

> Am 10.04.2012 um 16:55 schrieb Eloi Gaudry:
> 
>> Hi Ralf,
>> 
>> I haven't tried any of the 1.5 series yet (we have chosen not to use the 
>> features releases) but if this is mandatory for you to work on this topic, I 
>> will.
>> 
>> This might be of interest to Reuti and you : it seems that we cannot 
>> reproduce the problem anymore if we don't provide the "-np N" option on the 
>> orterun command line. Of course, we need to launch a few other runs to be 
>> really sure because the allocation error was not always observable. 
>> Actually, I recently understood (from Reuti) that the tight integration mode 
>> would supply every necessary bits to the launcher and thus I removed the 
>> '-np N' that was around... Could it be that using the '-np N' while using 
>> the sge tight integration mode is pathologic ?
> 
> Yes, it should work without problem to specify -np. As it didn't hit me in my 
> tests (normally I don't specify -np), I would really be interested in the 
> underlying cause.
> 
> Especially as the example in Open MPI's FAQ lists -np to start with 
> GirdEngine integration, it should have hit other users too.
> 
> -- Reuti
> 
> 
>> Regards,
>> Eloi
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: users-boun...@open-mpi.org [mailto:users-boun...@open-mpi.org] On 
>> Behalf Of Ralph Castain
>> Sent: mardi 10 avril 2012 16:43
>> To: Open MPI Users
>> Subject: Re: [OMPI users] sge tight intregration leads to bad allocation
>> 
>> Could well be a bug in OMPI - I can take a look, though it may be awhile 
>> before I get to it. Have you tried one of the 1.5 series releases?
>> 
>> On Apr 10, 2012, at 3:42 AM, Eloi Gaudry wrote:
>> 
>>> Thx. This is the allocation which is also confirmed by the Open MPI output.
>>> [eg: ] exactly, but not the one used afterwards by openmpi
>>> 
>>> - The application was compiled with the same version of Open MPI?
>>> [eg: ] yes, version 1.4.4 for all
>>> 
>>> - Does the application start something on its own besides the tasks granted 
>>> by mpiexec/orterun?
>>> [eg: ] no
>>> 
>>> You want 12 ranks in total, and to barney.fft and carl.fft there are also 
>>> "-mca orte_ess_num_procs 3 " given in to the qrsh_starter. In total I count 
>>> only 10 ranks in this example given - 4+4+2 - do you observe the same?
>>> [eg: ] i don't know why the -mca orte_ess_num_procs 3 is added here...
>>> In the "Map generated by mapping policy" output in my last email, I see 
>>> that 4 processes were started on each node (barney, carl and charlie), but 
>>> yes, in the ps -elf output, two of them are missing for one node 
>>> (barney)... sorry about that, a bad copy/paste. Here is the actual output 
>>> for this node:
>>> 2048 ?        Sl     3:33 /opt/sge/bin/lx-amd64/sge_execd
>>> 27502 ?        Sl     0:00  \_ sge_shepherd-1416 -bg
>>> 27503 ?        Ss     0:00      \_ /opt/sge/utilbin/lx-amd64/qrsh_starter 
>>> /opt/sge/default/spool/barney/active_jobs/1416.1/1.barney
>>> 27510 ?        S      0:00          \_ bash -c  
>>> PATH=/opt/openmpi-1.4.4/bin:$PATH ; export PATH ; 
>>> LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/openmpi-1.4.4/lib:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH ; export 
>>> LD_LIBRARY_PATH ;  /opt/openmpi-1.4.4/bin/orted -mca ess env -mca 
>>> orte_ess_jobid 3800367104 -mca orte_ess_vpid 1 -mca orte_ess_num_procs 3 
>>> --hnp-uri "3800367104.0;tcp://192.168.0.20:57233" --mca 
>>> pls_gridengine_verbose 1 --mca ras_gridengine_show_jobid 1 --mca 
>>> ras_gridengine_verbose 1
>>> 27511 ?        S      0:00              \_ /opt/openmpi-1.4.4/bin/orted 
>>> -mca ess env -mca orte_ess_jobid 3800367104 -mca orte_ess_vpid 1 -mca 
>>> orte_ess_num_procs 3 --hnp-uri 3800367104.0;tcp://192.168.0.20:57233 --mca 
>>> pls_gridengine_verbose 1 --mca ras_gridengine_show_jobid 1 --mca 
>>> ras_gridengine_verbose 1
>>> 27512 ?        Rl    12:54                  \_ 
>>> /opt/fft/actran_product/Actran_13.0.b.57333/bin/actranpy_mp 
>>> --apl=/opt/fft/actran_product/Actran_13.0.b.57333 -e radiation -m 10000 
>>> --parallel=frequency --scratch=/scratch/cluster/1416 
>>> --inputfile=/home/jj/Projects/Toyota/REFERENCE_JPC/semi_green_PML_06/semi_green_coarse.edat
>>> 27513 ?        Rl    12:54                  \_ 
>>> /opt/fft/actran_product/Actran_13.0.b.57333/bin/actranpy_mp 
>>> --apl=/opt/fft/actran_product/Actran_13.0.b.57333 -e radiation -m 10000 
>>> --parallel=frequency --scratch=/scratch/cluster/1416 
>>> --inputfile=/home/jj/Projects/Toyota/REFERENCE_JPC/semi_green_PML_06/semi_green_coarse.edat
>>> 27514 ?        Rl    12:54                  \_ 
>>> /opt/fft/actran_product/Actran_13.0.b.57333/bin/actranpy_mp 
>>> --apl=/opt/fft/actran_product/Actran_13.0.b.57333 -e radiation -m 10000 
>>> --parallel=frequency --scratch=/scratch/cluster/1416 
>>> --inputfile=/home/jj/Projects/Toyota/REFERENCE_JPC/semi_green_PML_06/semi_green_coarse.edat
>>> 27515 ?        Rl    12:53                  \_ 
>>> /opt/fft/actran_product/Actran_13.0.b.57333/bin/actranpy_mp 
>>> --apl=/opt/fft/actran_product/Actran_13.0.b.57333 -e radiation -m 10000 
>>> --parallel=frequency --scratch=/scratch/cluster/1416 
>>> --inputfile=/home/jj/Projects/Toyota/REFERENCE_JPC/semi_green_PML_06/semi_green_coarse.edat
>>> 
>>> It looks like Open MPI is doing the right thing, but the applications 
>>> decided to start in a different allocation.
>>> [eg: ] if the "Map generated by mapping policy" is different than the sge 
>>> allocation, then openmpi is not doing the right thing, don't you think ?
>>> 
>>> Does the application use OpenMP in addition or other kinds of threads? The 
>>> suffix "_mp" in the name "actranpy_mp" makes me suspicious about it.
>>> [eg: ] no, the suffix _mp stands for "parallel".
>>> 
>>> 
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