On 2/9/2012 7:02 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:

Am 10.02.2012 03:54, schrieb Paul Allen Newell:
On 2/9/2012 6:08 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 10.02.2012 02:51, schrieb Paul Allen Newell:
but for whatever reason my gut says that clean installs when F17 is released
will probably work (no bets on Rawhide as that is where the problems are
supposed to be discovered --- and notice I use the word "probably" and not
"definitely" (smile)). I am less positive about upgrades from prior Fedoras.
But, that being said, I must confess that I never do an upgrade, always a fresh
install.
but there are people who are working with their machines and do
not twice a year reinstall like windows - for me it takes TWO DAYS
until a fresh installed machine has exactly the state i like/need
to have before start working

Please note that I never advised that anyone else should do a fresh install 
rather than an upgrade. I was only
qualifying my opinion about "new/moved filesystems" in F17. Plus I don't think 
Windows has anything to do with the
topic or what I said ... the closest one can get in the way of comparisons is "fresh 
install" versus "upgrade" for
dealing with future Fedora changes.
sorry, but permanently reinstall the OS is a windows-thing
and especially unnaceptable if all 6 months a new version
is available and you have to maintain 2, 5, 10, 20 machines

a scripted dist-upgrade for 20 servers with yum takes around
two hours (proveable by logs) inlcuding download from local
repo-cache


Reindl:

Okay, I see your reasoning in using "windows-thing" comparison. I don't necessarily agree with it, but I can understand how it fits for what you are trying to say.

And clearly your situation is one that makes fresh installs more difficult. It sounds like you have crafted a system for handling new releases which works best for you.

I've got three machines, I only need one at a time, so I can take the hit of a fresh install as I move to a new release. Different workflow which makes fresh installs a better option for me (and I am only saying "for me")

Paul

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