On Sat, 2026-06-27 at 09:22 +0100, Barry Scott wrote:
> x11 is still in 6.7 but I hear is going from 6.8

I am dreading this.  I dislike how system-heavy I find the newer ways
of doing things are.  I don't have a graphics card more expensive than
my whole motherboard, nor consuming a few hundred watts.  And nor do I
want one.

I'm on MATE because it's lighter weight, and still has a good user
interface.  Many of the newer ones are a pain for multitasking, and
hiding of features I want to use.  This is a desktop not a tablet, and
the it's inappropriate to try to shoehorn that behaviour into it.

Taskbars are useful
Coherently organised menus are useful

A disorganised screen after screen of alphabetically ordered program
icons are a pain in the arse.  Likewise with menus that open up to
occupy a third of the screen, ones that reorganise the location of
things in them instead of everything always being where you expect
them, and ones with ridiculous behaviour requiring you to drill down
through cascading layers of some upside down menu that copies the
cretinous windows start menu at the bottom of the screen.

There's a very good reason why applications have had pull-down menus
from the top of their window for many years.  It's a damn good method.

                         - - - - - - - - 

Watching someone use the new paradigm of desktop computing shows how
badly implemented it is:

He cannot comprehend that you can open the web browser to do something,
open another application and do something referring to what he sees in
the web browser.  Because the interface doesn't suggest that's
possible.

Instead, he does something with the web browser, quits it to get back
to the desktop to **find** an app icon to do something else.  Forgets
what he browsed, opens the browser again, google searches to try to
find what he was looking at before.

The concept of multi-tasking is not suggested by an interface without a
taskbar showing the names of different windows you've opened and giving
an obvious way to switch between them.  It's not very intuitive
(inducive to self-discovery), requiring training to use.

I stopped supporting people using computers long ago.  I got damn sick
of hearing people narrate *all* the inapplicable things they can see of
their screen instead of knowing how to find something when you tell
them to open the "preferences."  FFS!

I'm hoping I'm dead before AI completely takes over, too.  The number
of people who think computing is going to be done by incanting some
instructions at the computer like a magic spell from Bewitched (TV
series) is seriously disturbing.


-- 
 
uname -rsvp
Linux 3.10.0-1160.119.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Jun 4 14:43:51 UTC 2024 x86_64
(yes, this is the output from uname for this PC when I posted)
 
Boilerplate:  All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted.
I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list.
 

-- 
_______________________________________________
users mailing list -- [email protected]
To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected]
Fedora Code of Conduct: 
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/
List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
List Archives: 
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/[email protected]
Do not reply to spam, report it: 
https://forge.fedoraproject.org/infra/tickets/issues/new

Reply via email to