On Mon, Nov 18, 2024 at 4:46 PM Stephen Morris
<steve.morris...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 18/11/24 10:36, Samuel Sieb wrote:
>
> Yes, a full cache can cause performance issues, but I would expect to be able 
> to play around with the caching algorithms to control what gets cached and 
> what doesn't, particularly when looking at sequential vs random access, 
> combined with disk fragmentation. I know EXT4 is a journaling file system 
> which is supposed to make fragmentation a non- issue, but I don't know 
> whether BTRFS is the same.
>
> That's not the cache that's meant.  He was referring to the hard disk 
> internal cache.  You have no control over that.  The filesystem could be a 
> factor for seek times, but it shouldn't be that much.
>
> I know there is a huge difference in price points, but 40 years ago mainframe 
> storage controllers provided functionality to control what files were loaded 
> into the storage cache and how much of the file was loaded, I just thought 
> hard disks had advanced enough to now provide similar functionality.

Some do. For example, Intel Optane memory is a storage accelerator. It
was a stock component of my Dell XPS 8930. And I understand Apple is
shipping storage devices that optimize file access using a combination
of RAM+Disk in one solid state drive package. (I can't find the name
Apple uses for its drives).

> I was so much concerned about seek overheads, but rpsmiss overheads and the 
> impact fragmentation has on that particularly if a load of a file has to 
> traverse all over the disk to do so.
> But having said this I'll put this to bed, I may have found what is causing 
> the KDE start up hard disk thrashing.

Jeff
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