On Sun, Aug 7, 2022 at 1:01 PM Tim via users <users@lists.fedoraproject.org>
wrote:

> On Sun, 2022-08-07 at 09:53 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> > As an aside, I've written off Gigabyte as damaged goods. Their tech
> > support refuses to give you support if you tell them you're running
> > Linux on their motherboards. Their hardware is MS-Windows only.
>
> Par for the course, unfortunately.  My experience with PC hardware is
> that they (*) always release buggy hardware, with the intention that
> they can work around any bugs discovered later on in software.  Of
> course that's done by issuing a driver for Windows, that's if they
> bother.  And if they do, it's only for a year or so.  After that they
> expect you to buy new hardware, instead.
>
> (* All manufacturers.)
>
> Naturally, the thing was only ever designed for Windows, in the first
> place.  Whether that's simple because it's easier to only concentrate
> on their biggest sales target, or due to oppression against Linux from
> Microsoft is a whole 'nother argument.
>
> We're used to being last on the list to get things in Australia, and
> what we might buy as latest release in a shop may well be a year or
> more behind other countries.  You'd expect bugs to be ironed out by the
> time we get it, but no.
>

Canada is often used to test market new things, some of which
are duds and never get wider distribution.


>
> Linux, on the other hand, does seem to have the advantage that if
> someone can discover a bug and fix, we'll get it (without the
> manufacturer's help or hindrance).
>
> Oddly enough, if you ferret around using Gigabyte and Linux search
> terms, you find an old post about them supporting Linux.  I guess that
> was just a passing fad, for them.  There are newer posts about Ubuntu
> and their server hardware; but considering Linux is considered niche,
> they may only consider Linux support on a few models.
>
> I've been lucky with hardware, new or old, finding things mostly worked
> well on Linux, often better than Windows.  On the odd occasion I've
> bought something new that wouldn't work, the shops have been fairly
> receptive about things that "I just cannot get to work."  Probably
> because it nearly always involves swapping it for something a bit more
> expensive.  I guess they'll probably just return it to the manufacture
> as "not working properly" without going into much detail, or simply re-
> sell it to the next muggins.
>

One strategy is to look for enterprise models that have been on the market
for a few years and have a track record of linux successes and failures.
Often
failures are graphics, audio, or wifi where there are options that do work
with
linux.

Used models are often readily available a couple years after introduction
when
normal business turnover results in  large batches (off-lease, bankruptcy
sales,
reorganization, etc.) at vendors' refurbished system sites.

-- 
George N. White III
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