On Sun, 2018-10-21 at 11:15 -0400, Todd Zullinger wrote:
> Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Sun, 2018-10-21 at 08:16 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> > > Are you aware that is already the case for this mailing list?
> > > 
> > > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org/
> > 
> > That in my view is the perfect argument for not doing this. Hello Kitty
> > (soooorrrrrry, HyperKitty) is harder to use, has a clunky interface
> > with huge amounts of wasted space, and is significantly less
> > functional.
> 
> Amusingly enough, I'd say similar things about Evolution as
> a long-time user of Mutt. ;)

No doubt, but the argument isn't about one MUA versus another, but
about the flexibility of MUAs versus the rigidity of web interfaces.

> I share your feelings about the list web interface, but I
> think that instead of being an argument against having such
> an interface, it's a sign that there are many types of users
> and the more power each of us has to interact with each
> other using our preferred tools, the better.  It's simply an
> argument against moving to any sort of one-size-fits-all
> software.

That's fine in itself, but my fear is that gradually the web version
starts taking precedence, e.g. by people adding "features", while over
time the list version becomes deprecated. Maybe I'm being paranoid but
this kind of thing creeps up on you and before you know it you're being
treated as a niche interest for old fogeys.

> > And apparently the current proposal doesn't even include this second-
> > rate option.
> 
> I think it's worth noting that there is no proposal.

Glad to hear it.

> It was
> simply a tangent in a discussion on the devel list (which
> was started to ask Gmail users to not send HTML mail to the
> list).

With which I concur of course.

poc
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