On 04/18/2010 10:54 AM, Antonio Olivares wrote:
>>>> So the myth is just that, a myth
>>>>
>>>>          
>>> IOW, when you run Windows apps, you get infected.
>>>        
>> Where's the myth? Did
>>      
>>> your Linux system crash? Were any of your system files
>>>        
>> corrupted? Was
>>      
>>> any of your non-Wine data leaked? Was your root
>>>        
>> password compromised?
>>      
>>> Did anything happen that would still have happened if
>>>        
>> you weren't
>>      
>>> running a Windows API?
>>>
>>> poc
>>>
>>>
>>>        
>> No, non of  linux was actually infected and not harmed
>> in any way that I
>> can see.
>>
>> My point is if wine is part of a Fedora install because it
>> installs with
>> Fedora automatically it is part of the system in general.
>>      
> Nope, Wine is not part of Fedora default install, it is packaged for Fedora 
> and available through yum
> # yum install wine
>
>    
>> Considering the way it works I really dont know why it is
>> there is there
>> if it can be infected as easily as this.
>>      
> Malware exists, it is frequent and if one is not careful, it could come in to 
> any system.  But one has to be asking for it with Linux based and other Unix 
> based operating systems.  Through wine, it can come in, but no harm was done 
> right?
>
>    
>> I have removed wine altogether.
>>
>> Also I did have Clamav running with this machine and even
>> after finding
>> the viruses with Avira, Clamav would not see them at all.
>>      
> Maybe the ClamAV is looking for other types of virii not specific to windows.
>
>    
>> That to me does spell trouble if
>> 1. A person is relying on linux reputation for not getting
>> a virus then
>> does something dumb like using wine and getting infected.
>>      
> This is like a user shooting (him/her)self on the foot.
>
>    
>> 2. Thinks that protection is needed and uses Clamav for
>> that protection
>> and the software fails them by not finding the culprit
>>
>>
>> I know one thing Avira free is staying on this machine for
>> a while
>>
>>
>> Better to be safe than sorry!!!!
>> -- 
>>      
>
> running wine on fedora or other linux based systems is something most people 
> do and do not get infections.  What Patrick wrote is right on the money.
>
>    
>>> IOW, when you run Windows apps, you get infected.
>>>        
>> Where's the myth? Did
>>      
>>> your Linux system crash? Were any of your system files
>>>        
>> corrupted? Was
>>      
>>> any of your non-Wine data leaked? Was your root
>>>        
>> password compromised?
>>      
>>> Did anything happen that would still have happened if
>>>        
>> you weren't
>>      
>>> running a Windows API?
>>>        
> It was not and you have stated that.  So all in all, it is not Fedora's fault 
> it is between the user and wine;
>
> Also as Bruno and others have pointed out, Selinux is there to protect us.  
> It can also let you know that somethings are going on and that somewhere a 
> file was mislabeled and ...., the setroubleshoot star appears and guides you 
> to find solutions and where the solution offered does not work, you may 
> report the issue on selinux list, bugzilla, etc.  You may also disable it 
> like some other users have because it gets in the way too much!  But it is 
> there to protect you, not to make your life miserable.  I have encountered 
> difficulties with it too, and Mr. Dan Walsh, Tom London, and others have been 
> very helpful and thus I can't complain about selinux.
>
> Regards,
>
> Antonio
>
>
>
>    
Thank you all for the help





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