A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?
On Tue, 2011-08-30 at 12:30, Wendy William wrote: > I know this is discussed many times in many lists but they like to make a > change > instead Kannel :) Moderators of these lists have a lot uninformed subscribers, IMHO. > Moderator (I don't know whois the moderator of this list) only need to change > it > then every one happy, no need to call every one to use you suggested mail > client. What change you want to propose? Reply-To field? > Why the moderator hard to change it? Will it hurt the moderator? It will hurt "proper" mode of the list. Yahoo mail client is broken. Complain to them. Please read following URL: http://marc.merlins.org/netrants/listreplyto.html and docs to which it points. > Milan, let's make thing simple, let's make Kannel list runs on every mail > clients. If it "runs on every mail clients" including every _broken_ mail client that means it will not run on any mail client. When you say "every mail client" you think your mail client. If moderator set Reply-To header, sooner or later someone will complain that it does not work with their mail client. > Regards, Wendy > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: Milan P. Stanic <m...@arvanta.net> > > To: users@kannel.org > > Sent: Mon, August 29, 2011 5:04:32 PM > > Subject: Re: Wrong setting on Kannel Mailing List? > > > > On Mon, 2011-08-29 at 17:17, Wendy William wrote: > > > You can set how this mailing list works, just set it. You don't need > >complain to > > > > > Yahoo mail. > > > > I don't complain to Yahoo mail. I don't use it for mail. > > > > > I believe the moderator of this mailing list can do it, if not then we > > > can > >help > > > > > to set it. > > > > You can create mailing list and set it however you want. > > > > > I see moderator of Xen, CentOS, and others already follow this, why not > >Kannel? > > > > This is discussed many times (as I said in previous mail) and mailing > > list moderator decided to set it to "proper mode". > > > > > Regards, Wendy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > > > From: Milan P. Stanic <m...@arvanta.net> > > > > To: users@kannel.org > > > > Sent: Mon, August 29, 2011 1:54:43 PM > > > > Subject: Re: Wrong setting on Kannel Mailing List? > > > > > > > > On Mon, 2011-08-29 at 12:30, Wendy William wrote: > > > > > I'am using Yahoo webmail and .... ofcourse not only me use Yahoo > >webmail :) > > > > > > > > Then you should complain to the Yahoo and not this list. > > > > > > > > If all the people of the world use improper Yahoo mail (or any other) > > > > software for mailing list which cannot handle such simple option, that > > > > will not make it proper. It does not work. Period. > > > > > > > > But, this question is discussed many times in this list and I think we > > > > should terminate this useless thread. :) > > > > > > > > > Regards, Wendy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > > > > > From: Milan P. Stanic <m...@arvanta.net> > > > > > > To: users@kannel.org > > > > > > Sent: Sun, August 28, 2011 9:14:21 PM > > > > > > Subject: Re: Wrong setting on Kannel Mailing List? > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 2011-08-28 at 15:14, Wendy William wrote: > > > > > > > I got this complain :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------- > > > > > > > > Next time, always copy the users list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > == Rene > > > > > > > -------------------------- > > > > > > > Current Kannel mailing settings caused: > > > > > > > 1. I got 2 emails for SAME EMAIL !!! 1 from Rene and 1 form > >kannel.org > > > > > > > 2. I must click Replay to All, because klik to Reply only send > > > > > to > >Rene > > > > > > > 3. Wasting time, wasting bandwidth > > > > > > > 4. How do I filter mail from Rene to be deleted because I have > > > > > > > got > >same > > > > > > > > > > > >email > > > > > > > > > > > > > from kannel behind Rene (also other users) ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So, I hope the moderator change the mailing list setting to > > > > avoid > >this > > > > > > > > > > >complain, > > > > > > > > > > > > > please ... > > > > > > > > > > > > It would be better to use e-mail client which know how to reply > > > > > > to > > > > > > mailing list. And not only you but most of the people subscribed > > > > > > to > > > > > > this list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, Wendy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > > > > > > > From: Milan P. Stanic <m...@arvanta.net> > > > > > > > > To: users@kannel.org > > > > > > > > Sent: Mon, August 22, 2011 3:00:19 PM > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Wrong setting on Kannel Mailing List? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Juan, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 2011-08-21 at 20:02, Juan Nin wrote: > > > > > > > > > Milan, I don't take it as an offense at all, not sure > > > > > > what > >you > > > > > > > > > understood with my reply, but it was not directed to you > > > > > > > at > >all, > > > > > >was > > > > > > > > > directed to Wendy the original poster :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry for my bad English. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I didn't want to say that you offended me. I put <no > > > > > > > > offense> > >tag > > > > > >to > > > > > > > > tell that I don't want to offend you. :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/21/11 3:55 PM, Milan P. Stanic wrote: > > > > > > > > > >On Sun, 2011-08-21 at 11:08, Juan Nin wrote: > > > > > > > > > >>The "good" or "not good" depends on each person... > > > > > > > > > >Well, yes. There is "proper" also. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>There's always debate on this topic on every > > > > > > > > > mailing-list, > > > > where > > > > > > > > > >>some people claim one way is the "correct" or "better" > >one, > > > > > >and > > > > > > > > > some > > > > > > > > > >>people claim it's the other one, and each of them have > >their > > > > > >good > > > > > > > > > >>reasons... Search on google and you'll find tons of > >topics on > > > > > >this > > > > > > > > > >>matter, and you will be able to see the different > > > > > > > > > opinions > > > > >about > > > > > > > > > it. > > > > > > > > > ><no offense> > > > > > > > > > >I'm subscribed to different mailing lists for more than > > > > > > > >fifteen > > > > > >years > > > > > > > > > >and I don't have to search google about that subject, > >IMHO. > > > > > > > > > ></no offense> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>At the end of the day, it's the decision of the list > >owners, > > > > > >and > > > > > > > > > I'm > > > > > > > > > >>sure that they have already thought about this and that > >they > > > > > >won't > > > > > > > > > >>change their mind. :) > > > > > > > > > >Agreed. But, when some random user ask how to reply > >"canonical > > > > > >way" I > > > > > > > > > >don't think it is rude to tell about "reply to list" > > > > > > > > > >option > >if > > > > > >MUA > > > > > > > > > >support that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>Regards. > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >>On 8/21/11 7:54 AM, Milan P. Stanic wrote: > > > > > > > > > >>>On Sun, 2011-08-21 at 18:10, Wendy William wrote: > > > > > > > > > >>>>When I do reply any Kannel mail then "To" field > > > > > filled > >by > > > > > >sender, > > > > > > > > > >not > > > > > > > > > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > >>>>users@kannel.org. This is not good since we must use > >Reply > > > > > >All that > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >caused > > > > > > > > > >>>>double messages. > > > > > > > > > >>>Check your e-mail client software and see if it have > >"reply to > > > > > > > > > > >list" > > > > > > > > > > > > > (or > > > > > > > > > >>>something similar) option. > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > >>>Kannel mailing lists works quite well with "normal" > >e-mail > > > > > > > clients. > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Kind regards, Milan > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > Arvanta, IT Security http://www.arvanta.net > > > > > > > > Please do not send me e-mail containing HTML code. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Kind regards, Milan > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > Arvanta, IT Security http://www.arvanta.net > > > > > > Please do not send me e-mail containing HTML code. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Kind regards, Milan > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > > Arvanta, IT Security http://www.arvanta.net > > > > Please do not send me e-mail containing HTML code. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Kind regards, Milan > > -------------------------------------------------- > > Arvanta, IT Security http://www.arvanta.net > > Please do not send me e-mail containing HTML code. > > > > > -- Kind regards, Milan -------------------------------------------------- Arvanta, IT Security http://www.arvanta.net Please do not send me e-mail containing HTML code.
