I recommend that you refer to the ASF wiki article instead:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/HTTPD/PHP-FPM

Other options include fastcgi and fcgid; I strongly recommend to use
php-fpm nowadays.

On Fri, 27 May 2022 at 12:30, Deepak Goel <deic...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Google threw out this:
>
>
> https://support.crucial.comhttps://support.crucial.com.au/en/knowledgebase/article/whats-the-difference-between-php-handlers-cgi-suphp-mod_php-dso-and-fastcgi
> <https://support.crucial.com.au/en/knowledgebase/article/whats-the-difference-between-php-handlers-cgi-suphp-mod_php-dso-and-fastcgi>
>
>
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> On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 9:17 PM Frank Gingras <thu...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Take a step back - the issue is that you are using the mod_php DSO. You
>> do not want to use the DSO, and instead, you want to use mod_proxy_fcgi to
>> interact with a php-fpm instead. You should not have any runtime dependency
>> on php from httpd's point of view.
>>
>> What you want is enough light httpd threads. With event, you can easily
>> spawn 5000+ workers and use less than 30MB in total.
>>
>> On Fri, 27 May 2022 at 08:41, Deepak Goel <deic...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> i doubt Apache by itself eats that kind of memory (1gb odd). You need to
>>> profile (memory) your application to see usage and get rid of objects which
>>> are no use to you (or trim them).
>>>
>>> On Fri, 27 May 2022, 18:06 Rajkumar Adsule, <rads...@opendr.com.invalid>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> ok, then can you please guide me on how to check why apache threads are
>>>> eating more memory.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Rajkumar Adsule
>>>> OpenDoctor
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>>>> On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 4:23 PM Deepak Goel <deic...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> 500 to 700 concurrent users is not much. We go upto 1500+ concurrent
>>>>> users with 1GB RAM.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Deepak
>>>>> "The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are
>>>>> treated - Mahatma Gandhi"
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 4:01 PM Rajkumar Adsule
>>>>> <rads...@opendr.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> We are running a multi-tenant application on this web server and it's
>>>>>> heavily used approx 500 to 700 concurrent users.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Rajkumar Adsule
>>>>>> OpenDoctor
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Hello: (347) 686-8581 Extn: 112*
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 2:59 PM Deepak Goel <deic...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. The best configuration depends on the number of people (users)
>>>>>>> accessing your webserver, and what kind of things they need to do (how
>>>>>>> heavy is your application.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2. 40 httpd threads eating 1gb each is a bit tough for me to
>>>>>>> understand. I use fpm and there are typically 4 processes of them run 
>>>>>>> on my
>>>>>>> webserver eating about 10MB each. Of Course the load (users) which I 
>>>>>>> cater
>>>>>>> to is less.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Deepak
>>>>>>> "The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are
>>>>>>> treated - Mahatma Gandhi"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> +91 73500 12833
>>>>>>> deic...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/deicool
>>>>>>> LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/deicool
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Plant a Tree, Go Green"
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 2:14 PM Rajkumar Adsule
>>>>>>> <rads...@opendr.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> yes, what would be the best configuration for 32CPU and 64GB RAM
>>>>>>>> server, and why it is eating that much memory.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <IfModule mpm_event_module>
>>>>>>>>     ServerLimit 4000
>>>>>>>>     StartServers 40
>>>>>>>>     MinSpareThreads 25
>>>>>>>>     MaxSpareThreads 2000
>>>>>>>>     ThreadLimit 64
>>>>>>>>     ThreadsPerChild 25
>>>>>>>>     MaxRequestWorkers 4000
>>>>>>>>     MaxClients 4000
>>>>>>>>     MaxConnectionsPerChild 0
>>>>>>>> </IfModule>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> Rajkumar Adsule
>>>>>>>> OpenDoctor
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 2:10 PM Deepak Goel <deic...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Most of the memory is eaten by https threads. I guess they are
>>>>>>>>> about 40 of them eating 1gb each.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Deepak
>>>>>>>>> "The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals
>>>>>>>>> are treated - Mahatma Gandhi"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> +91 73500 12833
>>>>>>>>> deic...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/deicool
>>>>>>>>> LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/deicool
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Plant a Tree, Go Green"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Make In India : http://www.makeinindia.com/home
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 1:45 PM Rajkumar Adsule
>>>>>>>>> <rads...@opendr.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>> Please find attached the output of top command
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>> Rajkumar Adsule
>>>>>>>>>> OpenDoctor
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Hello: (347) 686-8581 Extn: 112*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *The content of this email is confidential and intended for the
>>>>>>>>>> recipient specified in the message only. It is strictly forbidden to 
>>>>>>>>>> share
>>>>>>>>>> any part of this message with any third party, without the written 
>>>>>>>>>> consent
>>>>>>>>>> of the sender. If you received this message by mistake, please reply 
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> this message and follow with its deletion, so that we can ensure 
>>>>>>>>>> such a
>>>>>>>>>> mistake does not occur in the future.*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 1:38 PM Deepak Goel <deic...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Can you run the top command on the server and give us the output?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Deepak
>>>>>>>>>>> "The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals
>>>>>>>>>>> are treated - Mahatma Gandhi"
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> +91 73500 12833
>>>>>>>>>>> deic...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/deicool
>>>>>>>>>>> LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/deicool
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Plant a Tree, Go Green"
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Make In India : http://www.makeinindia.com/home
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 1:34 PM Rajkumar Adsule
>>>>>>>>>>> <rads...@opendr.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Please find the output of apachectl -M
>>>>>>>>>>>> $ apachectl -M
>>>>>>>>>>>> Loaded Modules:
>>>>>>>>>>>>  core_module (static)
>>>>>>>>>>>>  so_module (static)
>>>>>>>>>>>>  http_module (static)
>>>>>>>>>>>>  mpm_event_module (static)
>>>>>>>>>>>>  authn_file_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>>>  authn_core_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>>>  authz_host_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>>>  authz_groupfile_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>>>  authz_user_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>>>  authz_core_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>>>  access_compat_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>>>  auth_basic_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>>>  deflate_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>>>  socache_shmcb_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>>>  filter_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>>>  mime_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>>>  log_config_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>>>  logio_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>>>  env_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>>>  expires_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>>>  headers_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>>>  setenvif_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>>>  proxy_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>>>  session_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>>>  ssl_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>>>  unixd_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>>>  autoindex_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>>>  cgid_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>>>  dir_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>>>  alias_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>>>  rewrite_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>>>  php5_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> $ free -m
>>>>>>>>>>>>              total       used       free     shared    buffers
>>>>>>>>>>>>     cached
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mem:         60517      59155       1361        162       7344
>>>>>>>>>>>>       6487
>>>>>>>>>>>> -/+ buffers/cache:      45324      15192
>>>>>>>>>>>> Swap:        15358        133      15225
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The problem is Memory utilization is always 95% - 98%
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Rajkumar Adsule
>>>>>>>>>>>> OpenDoctor
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Hello: (347) 686-8581 Extn: 112*
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *The content of this email is confidential and intended for the
>>>>>>>>>>>> recipient specified in the message only. It is strictly forbidden 
>>>>>>>>>>>> to share
>>>>>>>>>>>> any part of this message with any third party, without the written 
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>>>>>>>>>>>> this message and follow with its deletion, so that we can ensure 
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>>>>>>>>>>>> mistake does not occur in the future.*
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 9:43 AM Frank Gingras <
>>>>>>>>>>>> thu...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, I hope you are using the php-fpm approach for the php
>>>>>>>>>>>>> content, as mixing event and mod_php is a bad idea.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you show apachectl -M ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 26 May 2022 at 12:51, Deepak Goel <deic...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What exactly is the problem? Can you please post the error?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Deepak
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> animals are treated - Mahatma Gandhi"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +91 73500 12833
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deic...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/deicool
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/deicool
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Plant a Tree, Go Green"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Make In India : http://www.makeinindia.com/home
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 26, 2022 at 9:54 PM Rajkumar Adsule
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <rads...@opendr.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Team,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have a lamp configured with CentOs6.10 , PHP5.4 and Apache
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.4.53 on a GCP Server with Config 32CPU and 64GB RAM.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Configured event mpm with following  values
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <IfModule mpm_event_module>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     ServerLimit 4000
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     StartServers 40
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     MinSpareThreads 25
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     MaxSpareThreads 2000
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     ThreadLimit 64
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     ThreadsPerChild 25
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     MaxRequestWorkers 4000
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     MaxClients 4000
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     MaxConnectionsPerChild 0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> </IfModule>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> please suggest a solution.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rajkumar Adsule
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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