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On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 9:17 PM Frank Gingras <thu...@apache.org> wrote:

> Take a step back - the issue is that you are using the mod_php DSO. You do
> not want to use the DSO, and instead, you want to use mod_proxy_fcgi to
> interact with a php-fpm instead. You should not have any runtime dependency
> on php from httpd's point of view.
>
> What you want is enough light httpd threads. With event, you can easily
> spawn 5000+ workers and use less than 30MB in total.
>
> On Fri, 27 May 2022 at 08:41, Deepak Goel <deic...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> i doubt Apache by itself eats that kind of memory (1gb odd). You need to
>> profile (memory) your application to see usage and get rid of objects which
>> are no use to you (or trim them).
>>
>> On Fri, 27 May 2022, 18:06 Rajkumar Adsule, <rads...@opendr.com.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> ok, then can you please guide me on how to check why apache threads are
>>> eating more memory.
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Rajkumar Adsule
>>> OpenDoctor
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>>> On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 4:23 PM Deepak Goel <deic...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> 500 to 700 concurrent users is not much. We go upto 1500+ concurrent
>>>> users with 1GB RAM.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Deepak
>>>> "The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are
>>>> treated - Mahatma Gandhi"
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 4:01 PM Rajkumar Adsule
>>>> <rads...@opendr.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> We are running a multi-tenant application on this web server and it's
>>>>> heavily used approx 500 to 700 concurrent users.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Rajkumar Adsule
>>>>> OpenDoctor
>>>>>
>>>>> *Hello: (347) 686-8581 Extn: 112*
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 2:59 PM Deepak Goel <deic...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. The best configuration depends on the number of people (users)
>>>>>> accessing your webserver, and what kind of things they need to do (how
>>>>>> heavy is your application.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. 40 httpd threads eating 1gb each is a bit tough for me to
>>>>>> understand. I use fpm and there are typically 4 processes of them run on 
>>>>>> my
>>>>>> webserver eating about 10MB each. Of Course the load (users) which I 
>>>>>> cater
>>>>>> to is less.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Deepak
>>>>>> "The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are
>>>>>> treated - Mahatma Gandhi"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> +91 73500 12833
>>>>>> deic...@gmail.com
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Plant a Tree, Go Green"
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 2:14 PM Rajkumar Adsule
>>>>>> <rads...@opendr.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> yes, what would be the best configuration for 32CPU and 64GB RAM
>>>>>>> server, and why it is eating that much memory.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <IfModule mpm_event_module>
>>>>>>>     ServerLimit 4000
>>>>>>>     StartServers 40
>>>>>>>     MinSpareThreads 25
>>>>>>>     MaxSpareThreads 2000
>>>>>>>     ThreadLimit 64
>>>>>>>     ThreadsPerChild 25
>>>>>>>     MaxRequestWorkers 4000
>>>>>>>     MaxClients 4000
>>>>>>>     MaxConnectionsPerChild 0
>>>>>>> </IfModule>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Rajkumar Adsule
>>>>>>> OpenDoctor
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Hello: (347) 686-8581 Extn: 112*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *The content of this email is confidential and intended for the
>>>>>>> recipient specified in the message only. It is strictly forbidden to 
>>>>>>> share
>>>>>>> any part of this message with any third party, without the written 
>>>>>>> consent
>>>>>>> of the sender. If you received this message by mistake, please reply to
>>>>>>> this message and follow with its deletion, so that we can ensure such a
>>>>>>> mistake does not occur in the future.*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 2:10 PM Deepak Goel <deic...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Most of the memory is eaten by https threads. I guess they are
>>>>>>>> about 40 of them eating 1gb each.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Deepak
>>>>>>>> "The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals
>>>>>>>> are treated - Mahatma Gandhi"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> +91 73500 12833
>>>>>>>> deic...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/deicool
>>>>>>>> LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/deicool
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Plant a Tree, Go Green"
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 1:45 PM Rajkumar Adsule
>>>>>>>> <rads...@opendr.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>> Please find attached the output of top command
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>> Rajkumar Adsule
>>>>>>>>> OpenDoctor
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Hello: (347) 686-8581 Extn: 112*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *The content of this email is confidential and intended for the
>>>>>>>>> recipient specified in the message only. It is strictly forbidden to 
>>>>>>>>> share
>>>>>>>>> any part of this message with any third party, without the written 
>>>>>>>>> consent
>>>>>>>>> of the sender. If you received this message by mistake, please reply 
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> this message and follow with its deletion, so that we can ensure such 
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> mistake does not occur in the future.*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 1:38 PM Deepak Goel <deic...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Can you run the top command on the server and give us the output?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Deepak
>>>>>>>>>> "The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals
>>>>>>>>>> are treated - Mahatma Gandhi"
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> +91 73500 12833
>>>>>>>>>> deic...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/deicool
>>>>>>>>>> LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/deicool
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Plant a Tree, Go Green"
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Make In India : http://www.makeinindia.com/home
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 1:34 PM Rajkumar Adsule
>>>>>>>>>> <rads...@opendr.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Please find the output of apachectl -M
>>>>>>>>>>> $ apachectl -M
>>>>>>>>>>> Loaded Modules:
>>>>>>>>>>>  core_module (static)
>>>>>>>>>>>  so_module (static)
>>>>>>>>>>>  http_module (static)
>>>>>>>>>>>  mpm_event_module (static)
>>>>>>>>>>>  authn_file_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>>  authn_core_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>>  authz_host_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>>  authz_groupfile_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>>  authz_user_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>>  authz_core_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>>  access_compat_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>>  auth_basic_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>>  deflate_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>>  socache_shmcb_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>>  filter_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>>  mime_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>>  log_config_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>>  logio_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>>  env_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>>  expires_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>>  headers_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>>  setenvif_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>>  proxy_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>>  session_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>>  ssl_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>>  unixd_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>>  autoindex_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>>  cgid_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>>  dir_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>>  alias_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>>  rewrite_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>>  php5_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> $ free -m
>>>>>>>>>>>              total       used       free     shared    buffers
>>>>>>>>>>>   cached
>>>>>>>>>>> Mem:         60517      59155       1361        162       7344
>>>>>>>>>>>     6487
>>>>>>>>>>> -/+ buffers/cache:      45324      15192
>>>>>>>>>>> Swap:        15358        133      15225
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The problem is Memory utilization is always 95% - 98%
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> Rajkumar Adsule
>>>>>>>>>>> OpenDoctor
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *Hello: (347) 686-8581 Extn: 112*
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> *The content of this email is confidential and intended for the
>>>>>>>>>>> recipient specified in the message only. It is strictly forbidden 
>>>>>>>>>>> to share
>>>>>>>>>>> any part of this message with any third party, without the written 
>>>>>>>>>>> consent
>>>>>>>>>>> of the sender. If you received this message by mistake, please 
>>>>>>>>>>> reply to
>>>>>>>>>>> this message and follow with its deletion, so that we can ensure 
>>>>>>>>>>> such a
>>>>>>>>>>> mistake does not occur in the future.*
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 9:43 AM Frank Gingras <thu...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, I hope you are using the php-fpm approach for the php
>>>>>>>>>>>> content, as mixing event and mod_php is a bad idea.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you show apachectl -M ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 26 May 2022 at 12:51, Deepak Goel <deic...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What exactly is the problem? Can you please post the error?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Deepak
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its
>>>>>>>>>>>>> animals are treated - Mahatma Gandhi"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> +91 73500 12833
>>>>>>>>>>>>> deic...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/deicool
>>>>>>>>>>>>> LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/deicool
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Plant a Tree, Go Green"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Make In India : http://www.makeinindia.com/home
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 26, 2022 at 9:54 PM Rajkumar Adsule
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <rads...@opendr.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Team,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have a lamp configured with CentOs6.10 , PHP5.4 and Apache
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.4.53 on a GCP Server with Config 32CPU and 64GB RAM.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Configured event mpm with following  values
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <IfModule mpm_event_module>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     ServerLimit 4000
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     StartServers 40
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     MinSpareThreads 25
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     MaxSpareThreads 2000
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     ThreadLimit 64
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     ThreadsPerChild 25
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     MaxRequestWorkers 4000
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     MaxClients 4000
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     MaxConnectionsPerChild 0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> </IfModule>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> please suggest a solution.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rajkumar Adsule
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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