Take a step back - the issue is that you are using the mod_php DSO. You do
not want to use the DSO, and instead, you want to use mod_proxy_fcgi to
interact with a php-fpm instead. You should not have any runtime dependency
on php from httpd's point of view.

What you want is enough light httpd threads. With event, you can easily
spawn 5000+ workers and use less than 30MB in total.

On Fri, 27 May 2022 at 08:41, Deepak Goel <deic...@gmail.com> wrote:

> i doubt Apache by itself eats that kind of memory (1gb odd). You need to
> profile (memory) your application to see usage and get rid of objects which
> are no use to you (or trim them).
>
> On Fri, 27 May 2022, 18:06 Rajkumar Adsule, <rads...@opendr.com.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> ok, then can you please guide me on how to check why apache threads are
>> eating more memory.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
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>> On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 4:23 PM Deepak Goel <deic...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> 500 to 700 concurrent users is not much. We go upto 1500+ concurrent
>>> users with 1GB RAM.
>>>
>>>
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>>> On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 4:01 PM Rajkumar Adsule
>>> <rads...@opendr.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> We are running a multi-tenant application on this web server and it's
>>>> heavily used approx 500 to 700 concurrent users.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Rajkumar Adsule
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>>>> On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 2:59 PM Deepak Goel <deic...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> 1. The best configuration depends on the number of people (users)
>>>>> accessing your webserver, and what kind of things they need to do (how
>>>>> heavy is your application.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. 40 httpd threads eating 1gb each is a bit tough for me to
>>>>> understand. I use fpm and there are typically 4 processes of them run on 
>>>>> my
>>>>> webserver eating about 10MB each. Of Course the load (users) which I cater
>>>>> to is less.
>>>>>
>>>>> Deepak
>>>>> "The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are
>>>>> treated - Mahatma Gandhi"
>>>>>
>>>>> +91 73500 12833
>>>>> deic...@gmail.com
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 2:14 PM Rajkumar Adsule
>>>>> <rads...@opendr.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> yes, what would be the best configuration for 32CPU and 64GB RAM
>>>>>> server, and why it is eating that much memory.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <IfModule mpm_event_module>
>>>>>>     ServerLimit 4000
>>>>>>     StartServers 40
>>>>>>     MinSpareThreads 25
>>>>>>     MaxSpareThreads 2000
>>>>>>     ThreadLimit 64
>>>>>>     ThreadsPerChild 25
>>>>>>     MaxRequestWorkers 4000
>>>>>>     MaxClients 4000
>>>>>>     MaxConnectionsPerChild 0
>>>>>> </IfModule>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Rajkumar Adsule
>>>>>> OpenDoctor
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 2:10 PM Deepak Goel <deic...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Most of the memory is eaten by https threads. I guess they are about
>>>>>>> 40 of them eating 1gb each.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Deepak
>>>>>>> "The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are
>>>>>>> treated - Mahatma Gandhi"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> +91 73500 12833
>>>>>>> deic...@gmail.com
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 1:45 PM Rajkumar Adsule
>>>>>>> <rads...@opendr.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>> Please find attached the output of top command
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> Rajkumar Adsule
>>>>>>>> OpenDoctor
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 1:38 PM Deepak Goel <deic...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Can you run the top command on the server and give us the output?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Deepak
>>>>>>>>> "The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals
>>>>>>>>> are treated - Mahatma Gandhi"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> +91 73500 12833
>>>>>>>>> deic...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/deicool
>>>>>>>>> LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/deicool
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Plant a Tree, Go Green"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Make In India : http://www.makeinindia.com/home
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 1:34 PM Rajkumar Adsule
>>>>>>>>> <rads...@opendr.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Please find the output of apachectl -M
>>>>>>>>>> $ apachectl -M
>>>>>>>>>> Loaded Modules:
>>>>>>>>>>  core_module (static)
>>>>>>>>>>  so_module (static)
>>>>>>>>>>  http_module (static)
>>>>>>>>>>  mpm_event_module (static)
>>>>>>>>>>  authn_file_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>  authn_core_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>  authz_host_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>  authz_groupfile_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>  authz_user_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>  authz_core_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>  access_compat_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>  auth_basic_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>  deflate_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>  socache_shmcb_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>  filter_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>  mime_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>  log_config_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>  logio_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>  env_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>  expires_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>  headers_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>  setenvif_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>  proxy_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>  session_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>  ssl_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>  unixd_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>  autoindex_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>  cgid_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>  dir_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>  alias_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>  rewrite_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>  php5_module (shared)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> $ free -m
>>>>>>>>>>              total       used       free     shared    buffers
>>>>>>>>>>   cached
>>>>>>>>>> Mem:         60517      59155       1361        162       7344
>>>>>>>>>>     6487
>>>>>>>>>> -/+ buffers/cache:      45324      15192
>>>>>>>>>> Swap:        15358        133      15225
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The problem is Memory utilization is always 95% - 98%
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>> Rajkumar Adsule
>>>>>>>>>> OpenDoctor
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>> recipient specified in the message only. It is strictly forbidden to 
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>>>>>>>>>> this message and follow with its deletion, so that we can ensure 
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 9:43 AM Frank Gingras <thu...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Also, I hope you are using the php-fpm approach for the php
>>>>>>>>>>> content, as mixing event and mod_php is a bad idea.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Can you show apachectl -M ?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 26 May 2022 at 12:51, Deepak Goel <deic...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> What exactly is the problem? Can you please post the error?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Deepak
>>>>>>>>>>>> "The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its
>>>>>>>>>>>> animals are treated - Mahatma Gandhi"
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> +91 73500 12833
>>>>>>>>>>>> deic...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/deicool
>>>>>>>>>>>> LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/deicool
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Plant a Tree, Go Green"
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Make In India : http://www.makeinindia.com/home
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, May 26, 2022 at 9:54 PM Rajkumar Adsule
>>>>>>>>>>>> <rads...@opendr.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Team,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have a lamp configured with CentOs6.10 , PHP5.4 and Apache
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.4.53 on a GCP Server with Config 32CPU and 64GB RAM.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Configured event mpm with following  values
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <IfModule mpm_event_module>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     ServerLimit 4000
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     StartServers 40
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     MinSpareThreads 25
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     MaxSpareThreads 2000
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     ThreadLimit 64
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     ThreadsPerChild 25
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     MaxRequestWorkers 4000
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     MaxClients 4000
>>>>>>>>>>>>>     MaxConnectionsPerChild 0
>>>>>>>>>>>>> </IfModule>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> please suggest a solution.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rajkumar Adsule
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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