Hi :) Bug report time! :) I think it would be good to see documents get lighter https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport
They already compare favourably with documents produced by other office suites but even lighter than that would be great Regards from Tom :) >________________________________ > From: Holger Schmithüsen <[email protected]> >To: Tom Davies <[email protected]>; anne-ology <[email protected]>; >[email protected] >Sent: Friday, 16 August 2013, 8:46 >Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Why does writer create automatic styles for >every new element? > > >Hi, > >thanks for the answers so far, however my question isn't answered yet. > >@Tom: Well, it's also my plan to stick to using styles. The problem here >is not the odt-format itself, but it's the somewhat "messy" >implementation in LibreOffice. As I said, when manually removing direct >formatting (which hasn't been applied anyway) I get > ><text:p text:style-name="Title">This is my title</text:p> ><text:p text:style-name="Text_20_body">This is a text body >paragraph.</text:p> > >in "content.xml", which is straight and clean odt-formatting. However, >my trouble is the default behaviour of LibreOffice, that it defines all >those styles "P1", "P2", "T1", ... which are apparently perfectly >meaningless and unnecessary. > >So, who knows how to get rid of this overhead by default? Or should this >be considered a bug? > >Cheers, >Holger > > >On 08/16/13 01:57, Tom Davies wrote: >> Hi :) >> I find it easier to stick to using styles and then sometimes edit the >> styles as a i go along. >> >> I don't know of any format that doesn't throw in tons of extra >> formatting. Rtf is probably the one with the least extra random bits >> of unused code but it's a legacy format that is out dated already. >> Have you compared with the coding in other formats? I think Odt >> manages to a void a lot of the personal information that gets stored >> in Doc and DocX. I've not really looked at other formats much. >> Regards from >> Tom :) >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> *From:* anne-ology <[email protected]> >> *To:* Holger Schmithüsen <[email protected]> >> *Cc:* [email protected] >> *Sent:* Thursday, 15 August 2013, 19:27 >> *Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-users] Why does writer create >> automatic styles for every new element? >> >> A simple solution - my method - is to merely type whatever >> then add >> whatever options as I go along; >> this saves time in that I know what's what. >> >> If you set these templates, then decide that the title should be >> smaller, or wish to set off some quote, or add some footnote, ... >> ... ... >> then you're stuck with whatever the template wants. >> >> I basically did/do the same thing when writing HTML - in >> fact, now, >> I have quite a lengthy page of HTML code which I apply whenever >> necessary - >> sure saves time having to remember what's what. >> >> Just some thoughts from the KIS corner ;-) >> >> >> >> On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 9:14 AM, Holger Schmithüsen < >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> Hi! >> > >> > When I create a new Writer document, each element I enter in the >> document >> > (like a heading or paragraph) adds new elements to >> > <office:automatic-styles> in "content.xml", even though I do not >> use any >> > direct formatting. So, selecting style "Title", entering the >> title, then >> > selecting "Text Body" and entering a paragraph creates the following >> > automatic styles in "content.xml": >> > >> > <office:automatic-styles> >> > <style:style style:name="P1" style:family="paragraph" >> > style:parent-style-name="Text_**20_body"> >> > <style:text-properties officeooo:paragraph-rsid="**00063317"/> >> > </style:style> >> > <style:style style:name="P2" style:family="paragraph" >> > style:parent-style-name="**Title"> >> > <style:text-properties officeooo:paragraph-rsid="**00063317"/> >> > </style:style> >> > <style:style style:name="T1" style:family="text"> >> > <style:text-properties officeooo:rsid="00063317"/> >> > </style:style> >> > </office:automatic-styles> >> > >> > and the actual content: >> > >> > <office:body> >> > <office:text> >> > <text:p text:style-name="P2"><text:**span >> text:style-name="T1">This is my >> > title</text:span></text:p> >> > <text:p text:style-name="P1"><text:**span >> text:style-name="T1">This is a >> > text body paragraph.</text:span></text:**p> >> > </office:text> >> > </office:body> >> > >> > Now, I can delete the unwanted direct formatting by clicking >> "Format - >> > Clear direct formatting". Then, the content looks as nice and clean: >> > >> > <text:p text:style-name="Title">This is my title</text:p> >> > <text:p text:style-name="Text_20_body"**>This is a text body >> > paragraph.</text:p> >> > >> > However, this removal of unnecessary direct formatting is not very >> > appropriate, as I sometimes do have direct formatting (a >> subscript for >> > instance). >> > Is it possible to suppress Writer's behaviour of defining those >> > meaningless automatic styles? And if not, is it possible to get >> rid of only >> > the meaningless direct formatting, i.e. those <style:style> >> elements, that >> > do not contain any formatting attributes? >> > >> > I'm using LibreOffice Version 4.0.3.3. >> > >> > Thanks for your help, >> > Holger >> > >> > >> >> -- >> To unsubscribe e-mail to: [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> Problems? >> http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >> Posting guidelines + more: >> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >> List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ >> All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and >> cannot be deleted >> >> > > >-- >To unsubscribe e-mail to: [email protected] >Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ >All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted > > > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: [email protected] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
