Hello Safari owners :)
Could you please visit
https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/hash?app=settings and tell me is it
works as expected in Safari browser (11+)
Thanks in advance :))

@Sebastian,
It is great idea to add NOTICE for Safari 13, I'm not sure It should be
added to OM UI ....
Adding to UI means we have to add it to 35 languages and maintain ...


On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 at 06:02, seba.wag...@gmail.com <seba.wag...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> If it's just limited to Safari13 then its prob fine.
>
> Will we issue a warning though somehow?
>
> The experience for a brand new user trying it for the first time usually
> means they consider the application not ready and they won't try again.
>
> So having some warning saying "Safari13 is currently only beta support" it
> would definitely help a lot to manage those users not getting angry!
>
> We could just add a simple warning info text on the login page for example?
>
> Thanks
> Seb
>
> Sebastian Wagner
> Director Arrakeen Solutions
> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
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> On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 at 00:11, Alvaro <zurca...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Yes, release as-is...
>>
>>
>> .................
>>
>>
>> El lun, 27-07-2020 a las 13:14 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik escribió:
>>
>> I was hoping Develop->WebRTC switches can enable sound at Safari 13
>> And this might give as some insight of what can be improved
>> (not sure if generic test application is useful anyhow)
>>
>> @All,
>> Shall we release as-is or spent additional month+ trying to investigate
>> Safari 11 ?
>>
>> On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 13:07, seba.wag...@gmail.com <
>> seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> No but the generic test application at
>> https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/getusermedia/audio/
>>  seems to work better now after restarting my Mac.
>>
>> However the OpenMeetings application setup application seems to not do
>> much when recording the stream.
>> And there is no level-meter when audio/mic is enabled.
>> And there is no sound output on a 2nd device when using Safari13 and
>> enabling mic on the Safari device. Chrome however works fine.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Seb
>>
>> Sebastian Wagner
>> Director Arrakeen Solutions
>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
>>
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>> On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 17:45, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> While testing with Safari 11 I noticed some "WebRTC" submenu in "Develop"
>> menu
>> Do you have it on Safari 13?
>> Can you "play" with options?
>>
>> On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 12:43, seba.wag...@gmail.com <
>> seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I think in Safari 11 they introduced support for audio/video:
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safari_version_history#Safari_11
>>
>>    - Includes updated media controls for HTML5 video and audio
>>    - Adds support for new web technologies such as WebRTC
>>    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebRTC>, Media Capture API, Resource
>>    Timing API, WebAssembly <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebAssembly>,
>>    variable fonts, CSS strokes and more.[63]
>>    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safari_version_history#cite_note-63>
>>
>>
>> But then in Safari 13 there are quite a lot of changes
>>
>> https://developer.apple.com/documentation/safari-release-notes/safari-13-release-notes
>>
>>
>> Hm in terms of releasing, I am not sure, would be good to get a few more
>> users to confirm on Safari13.
>> If the issue is really a generic Safari13 limitation or not.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Seb
>>
>> Sebastian Wagner
>> Director Arrakeen Solutions
>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
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>> On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 17:38, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Well,
>> >
>> > I'll try to find newer iMac, but have no idea where ATM :(((
>> >
>> > I will be on vacation 1-15 August without any access to internet (maybe
>> > occasional access to mobile internet)
>> > I thought to release before my vacation
>> > Do you think it is possible?
>> >
>> > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 12:35, seba.wag...@gmail.com <
>> seba.wag...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> I'm using Safari 13 and it doesn't work.
>> >> And I think I'm not alone.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks
>> >> Seb
>> >>
>> >> Sebastian Wagner
>> >> Director Arrakeen Solutions
>> >> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
>> >>
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>> >>
>> >> On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 17:34, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Hello Sebastian, All,
>> >>>
>> >>> I just was able to get real iMac to test
>> >>> It has Safari 11 (and I have no rights to update it)
>> >>>
>> >>> Everything works as expected
>> >>>
>> >>> I have tested demo-next as-is
>> >>>
>> >>> My steps were
>> >>> 1) on Safari enter restricted room
>> >>> 2) start Audio only broadcasting
>> >>> Result: green sound bar is jumping
>> >>> 3) enter same room Ubuntu 20.04+Chromium latest
>> >>> Result: I can hear the audio in the room
>> >>>
>> >>> I will have access to the iMac for couple more hours, please let me
>> know
>> >>> if I should do any additional tests
>> >>>
>> >>> On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 04:32, seba.wag...@gmail.com <
>> >>> seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> As reported in a few email discussions: Safari on iOS does not
>> capture
>> >>>> audio.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> We could establish that playback is fine. But capturing audio does
>> not
>> >>>> work.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> There are currently two tickets we have:
>> >>>>  - OPENMEETINGS-2277 - Fixing the capture of audio on Safari/iOS in
>> >>>> conference room (some other subject but we established that that's
>> the
>> >>>> root
>> >>>> cause)
>> >>>>  - OPENMEETINGS-2412 - Fixing the capture of audio on Safari/iOS in
>> >>>> setup
>> >>>> testing tool
>> >>>>
>> >>>> There are various discussions where some think some code change on
>> our
>> >>>> end
>> >>>> would fix it.
>> >>>> I am not sure about that.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> There seems to be even the official webRTC samples broken for
>> >>>> Safari/iOS:
>> >>>> See for example webRTC samples section:
>> >>>> https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/getusermedia/audio/
>> >>>> => Works in Chrome/iOS
>> >>>> => Fails in Safari/iOS
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I also started a discussion at discuss-webRTC :
>> >>>>
>> https://groups.google.com/g/discuss-webrtc/c/XBeiy3GpVLg/m/kbsCU25IBgAJ
>> >>>>
>> >>>> In my opinion: Fixing this issue inside OpenMeetings is rather
>> complex.
>> >>>> As
>> >>>> there is a lot of other code. So I would like to see a simple minimal
>> >>>> code
>> >>>> example to start with. If that works fine, I'm convinced we can fix
>> it
>> >>>> in
>> >>>> OpenMeetings too!
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Are there other opinions or ideas on how to approach this ?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> If there is no reply or not an answer on discuss-webRTC I would also
>> >>>> like
>> >>>> to interview people at Kurento mailing lists.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Thanks,
>> >>>> Sebastian
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Sebastian Wagner
>> >>>> Director Arrakeen Solutions
>> >>>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
>> >>>> <
>> >>>>
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>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> --
>> >>> Best regards,
>> >>> Maxim
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >
>> > --
>> > Best regards,
>> > Maxim
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Best regards,
>> Maxim
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Best regards,
>> Maxim
>>
>>

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Maxim

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