Yes, release as-is...

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El lun, 27-07-2020 a las 13:14 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik escribió:
> I was hoping Develop->WebRTC switches can enable sound at Safari
> 13And this might give as some insight of what can be improved
> (not sure if generic test application is useful anyhow)
> 
> @All,
> Shall we release as-is or spent additional month+ trying to
> investigate Safari 11 ?
> On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 13:07, seba.wag...@gmail.com <seba.wagner@gmai
> l.com> wrote:
> > No but the generic test application at https://webrtc.github.io/sam
> > ples/src/content/getusermedia/audio/ seems to work better now after
> > restarting my Mac.
> > However the OpenMeetings application setup application seems to not
> > do much when recording the stream.
> > And there is no level-meter when audio/mic is enabled.
> > And there is no sound output on a 2nd device when using Safari13
> > and enabling mic on the Safari device. Chrome however works fine.
> > 
> > Thanks
> > Seb
> > 
> > Sebastian Wagner
> > Director Arrakeen Solutions
> > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 17:45, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.co
> > m> wrote:
> > > While testing with Safari 11 I noticed some "WebRTC" submenu in
> > > "Develop" menuDo you have it on Safari 13?
> > > Can you "play" with options?
> > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 12:43, seba.wag...@gmail.com <seba.wagner@
> > > gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > I think in Safari 11 they introduced support for audio/video:
> > > > 
> > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safari_version_history#Safari_11
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >    - Includes updated media controls for HTML5 video and audio
> > > > 
> > > >    - Adds support for new web technologies such as WebRTC
> > > > 
> > > >    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebRTC>, Media Capture API,
> > > > Resource
> > > > 
> > > >    Timing API, WebAssembly <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebAs
> > > > sembly>,
> > > > 
> > > >    variable fonts, CSS strokes and more.[63]
> > > > 
> > > >    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safari_version_history#cite_n
> > > > ote-63>
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > But then in Safari 13 there are quite a lot of changes
> > > > 
> > > > https://developer.apple.com/documentation/safari-release-notes/
> > > > safari-13-release-notes
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Hm in terms of releasing, I am not sure, would be good to get a
> > > > few more
> > > > 
> > > > users to confirm on Safari13.
> > > > 
> > > > If the issue is really a generic Safari13 limitation or not.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Cheers
> > > > 
> > > > Seb
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Sebastian Wagner
> > > > 
> > > > Director Arrakeen Solutions
> > > > 
> > > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
> > > > 
> > > > <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-490
> > > > 33f10d60a/public_url>
> > > > 
> > > > <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099
> > > > 038475e36/public_url>
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 17:38, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax666@gmai
> > > > l.com> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > Well,
> > > > 
> > > > >
> > > > 
> > > > > I'll try to find newer iMac, but have no idea where ATM :(((
> > > > 
> > > > >
> > > > 
> > > > > I will be on vacation 1-15 August without any access to
> > > > internet (maybe
> > > > 
> > > > > occasional access to mobile internet)
> > > > 
> > > > > I thought to release before my vacation
> > > > 
> > > > > Do you think it is possible?
> > > > 
> > > > >
> > > > 
> > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 12:35, seba.wag...@gmail.com <seba.wag
> > > > n...@gmail.com>
> > > > 
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > >
> > > > 
> > > > >> I'm using Safari 13 and it doesn't work.
> > > > 
> > > > >> And I think I'm not alone.
> > > > 
> > > > >>
> > > > 
> > > > >> Thanks
> > > > 
> > > > >> Seb
> > > > 
> > > > >>
> > > > 
> > > > >> Sebastian Wagner
> > > > 
> > > > >> Director Arrakeen Solutions
> > > > 
> > > > >> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
> > > > 
> > > > >>
> > > > 
> > > > >> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-
> > > > 49033f10d60a/public_url>
> > > > 
> > > > >> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-
> > > > 099038475e36/public_url>
> > > > 
> > > > >>
> > > > 
> > > > >>
> > > > 
> > > > >> On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 17:34, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax666@g
> > > > mail.com>
> > > > 
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > >>
> > > > 
> > > > >>> Hello Sebastian, All,
> > > > 
> > > > >>>
> > > > 
> > > > >>> I just was able to get real iMac to test
> > > > 
> > > > >>> It has Safari 11 (and I have no rights to update it)
> > > > 
> > > > >>>
> > > > 
> > > > >>> Everything works as expected
> > > > 
> > > > >>>
> > > > 
> > > > >>> I have tested demo-next as-is
> > > > 
> > > > >>>
> > > > 
> > > > >>> My steps were
> > > > 
> > > > >>> 1) on Safari enter restricted room
> > > > 
> > > > >>> 2) start Audio only broadcasting
> > > > 
> > > > >>> Result: green sound bar is jumping
> > > > 
> > > > >>> 3) enter same room Ubuntu 20.04+Chromium latest
> > > > 
> > > > >>> Result: I can hear the audio in the room
> > > > 
> > > > >>>
> > > > 
> > > > >>> I will have access to the iMac for couple more hours,
> > > > please let me know
> > > > 
> > > > >>> if I should do any additional tests
> > > > 
> > > > >>>
> > > > 
> > > > >>> On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 04:32, seba.wag...@gmail.com <
> > > > 
> > > > >>> seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > >>>
> > > > 
> > > > >>>> As reported in a few email discussions: Safari on iOS does
> > > > not capture
> > > > 
> > > > >>>> audio.
> > > > 
> > > > >>>>
> > > > 
> > > > >>>> We could establish that playback is fine. But capturing
> > > > audio does not
> > > > 
> > > > >>>> work.
> > > > 
> > > > >>>>
> > > > 
> > > > >>>> There are currently two tickets we have:
> > > > 
> > > > >>>>  - OPENMEETINGS-2277 - Fixing the capture of audio on
> > > > Safari/iOS in
> > > > 
> > > > >>>> conference room (some other subject but we established
> > > > that that's the
> > > > 
> > > > >>>> root
> > > > 
> > > > >>>> cause)
> > > > 
> > > > >>>>  - OPENMEETINGS-2412 - Fixing the capture of audio on
> > > > Safari/iOS in
> > > > 
> > > > >>>> setup
> > > > 
> > > > >>>> testing tool
> > > > 
> > > > >>>>
> > > > 
> > > > >>>> There are various discussions where some think some code
> > > > change on our
> > > > 
> > > > >>>> end
> > > > 
> > > > >>>> would fix it.
> > > > 
> > > > >>>> I am not sure about that.
> > > > 
> > > > >>>>
> > > > 
> > > > >>>> There seems to be even the official webRTC samples broken
> > > > for
> > > > 
> > > > >>>> Safari/iOS:
> > > > 
> > > > >>>> See for example webRTC samples section:
> > > > 
> > > > >>>> https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/getusermedia/
> > > > audio/
> > > > 
> > > > >>>> => Works in Chrome/iOS
> > > > 
> > > > >>>> => Fails in Safari/iOS
> > > > 
> > > > >>>>
> > > > 
> > > > >>>> I also started a discussion at discuss-webRTC :
> > > > 
> > > > >>>> https://groups.google.com/g/discuss-webrtc/c/XBeiy3GpVLg/m
> > > > /kbsCU25IBgAJ
> > > > 
> > > > >>>>
> > > > 
> > > > >>>> In my opinion: Fixing this issue inside OpenMeetings is
> > > > rather complex.
> > > > 
> > > > >>>> As
> > > > 
> > > > >>>> there is a lot of other code. So I would like to see a
> > > > simple minimal
> > > > 
> > > > >>>> code
> > > > 
> > > > >>>> example to start with. If that works fine, I'm convinced
> > > > we can fix it
> > > > 
> > > > >>>> in
> > > > 
> > > > >>>> OpenMeetings too!
> > > > 
> > > > >>>>
> > > > 
> > > > >>>> Are there other opinions or ideas on how to approach this
> > > > ?
> > > > 
> > > > >>>>
> > > > 
> > > > >>>> If there is no reply or not an answer on discuss-webRTC I
> > > > would also
> > > > 
> > > > >>>> like
> > > > 
> > > > >>>> to interview people at Kurento mailing lists.
> > > > 
> > > > >>>>
> > > > 
> > > > >>>> Thanks,
> > > > 
> > > > >>>> Sebastian
> > > > 
> > > > >>>>
> > > > 
> > > > >>>> Sebastian Wagner
> > > > 
> > > > >>>> Director Arrakeen Solutions
> > > > 
> > > > >>>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
> > > > 
> > > > >>>> <
> > > > 
> > > > >>>> https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f
> > > > -49033f10d60a/public_url
> > > > 
> > > > >>>> >
> > > > 
> > > > >>>> <
> > > > 
> > > > >>>> https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf
> > > > -099038475e36/public_url
> > > > 
> > > > >>>> >
> > > > 
> > > > >>>>
> > > > 
> > > > >>>
> > > > 
> > > > >>>
> > > > 
> > > > >>> --
> > > > 
> > > > >>> Best regards,
> > > > 
> > > > >>> Maxim
> > > > 
> > > > >>>
> > > > 
> > > > >>
> > > > 
> > > > >
> > > > 
> > > > > --
> > > > 
> > > > > Best regards,
> > > > 
> > > > > Maxim
> > > > 
> > > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > Best regards,
> > > Maxim
> > > 
> 
> -- 
> Best regards,
> Maxim
> 

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