Also, if these options cause the problem, how do you fix the problem? Like which configuration file?
On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 9:31 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com> wrote: > It seems Flash trying to talk RTMPTS with RTMPS service > Could you share these options > > 1. fallback: "rtmpt://localhost:5080/openmeetings/11" > 2. mode: "broadcast" > 3. native:"false" > 4. rtmpPort: "1935" > 5. rtmpsPort:"8443" > 6. secure:"false" > 7. > > Available in DEV console during appInit() call > > > On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 12:23 AM, Tom Luo <mario...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi, Maxim, >> >> I turned on the debug mode and I did see error messages in the Chrome >> debug console. >> But I don't know how to fix the problems. Do you know how? Please see the >> messages below. >> >> ["onselect WxH :: 120x90"] >> VM497:1 ["resize:: 120x90"] >> VM498:1 ["Camera selected:: 0"] >> VM499:1 ["Entering getCam ..."] >> VM500:1 ["IS NO INTERVIEW "] >> VM501:1 ["... getCam DONE [object Camera]"] >> VM502:1 (2) ["Camera selected:: [object Camera]", false] >> VM504:1 ["Entering getCam ..."] >> VM505:1 ["IS NO INTERVIEW "] >> VM506:1 ["... getCam DONE [object Camera]"] >> VM507:1 ["_attachCamera():: muted ? false"] >> VM508:1 ["_attachCamera()::done"] >> :8443/open/1:1 POST https://www.ideastoproduct.net:8443/open/1 >> net::ERR_EMPTY_RESPONSE >> VM512:1 ["ConnectionStatus: NetConnection.Connect.Failed"] >> VM517:1 (2) ["setRightsCallback", Array(1)] >> VM518:1 (3) ["_updateExclusive", Array(1), Array(3)] >> VM705:1 (2) ["appInit()", {…}] >> VM706:1 ["resize:: 300x200"] >> VM707:1 (2) ["NetConnection is not connected", "rtmps:// >> www.ideastoproduct.net:8443/openmeetings/2"] >> :8443/open/1:1 POST https://www.ideastoproduct.net:8443/open/1 >> net::ERR_EMPTY_RESPONSE >> VM798:1 ["ConnectionStatus: NetConnection.Connect.Failed"] >> >> On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 10:30 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> You can try to turn-on client debugging and check browser console ... >>> >>> On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 10:29 PM, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Massages from openmeetings.log are just DEBUG messages, nothing to >>>> worry about >>>> Have you saved the Camera/Mic settings in Settings dialog? >>>> >>>> I don't know what can be wrong since everything works on demo ... >>>> >>>> On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 9:06 PM, Tom Luo <mario...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Adobe Flash in Firefox somethings will crash in the step. >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 8:35 AM, Tom Luo <mario...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> In the choose device window, it will ask for camera permission. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 8:33 AM, Tom Luo <mario...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> In the demo website, after I enter a public room, the browser will >>>>>>> ask for the camera permission, however, in my website, the browser does >>>>>>> not >>>>>>> ask. >>>>>>> This means the browser does not want to use camera. I don't know why. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 8:24 AM, Tom Luo <mario...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I checked my openmeetings.log. >>>>>>>> I do see an error message: >>>>>>>> DEBUG 11-09 08:16:21.272 o.a.o.c.r.ScopeApplicationAdapter:767 >>>>>>>> [Thread-57] - [MessageSender] -> 'Unable to send message to NULL scope' >>>>>>>> clientUpdated, null >>>>>>>> DEBUG 11-09 08:16:21.297 o.a.o.d.d.r.PollDao:103 [0.0-5443-exec-3] >>>>>>>> - :: hasPoll :: 4 >>>>>>>> DEBUG 11-09 08:16:21.300 o.a.o.d.d.r.PollDao:97 [0.0-5443-exec-3] >>>>>>>> - :: getArchived :: 4 >>>>>>>> DEBUG 11-09 08:16:32.706 o.a.o.w.c.MainPanel:117 [0.0-5443-exec-9] >>>>>>>> - Sending WebSocket PING >>>>>>>> DEBUG 11-09 08:16:39.925 o.a.o.w.a.Application:619 >>>>>>>> [0.0-5443-exec-8] - Removing online room client: >>>>>>>> 8ad9cbcb-7ebc-4822-a8fb-c590c152448d, room: 4 >>>>>>>> DEBUG 11-09 08:16:39.932 o.a.o.c.r.ScopeApplicationAdapter:767 >>>>>>>> [Thread-58] - [MessageSender] -> 'Unable to send message to NULL scope' >>>>>>>> stopStream, java.lang.Object@4fa3b9c5 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Is this related to my problem? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 8:12 AM, Tom Luo <mario...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi, Maxim, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I also thought I just need to set the Camera/Microphone once and >>>>>>>>> it will automatically start. This is the case in OM3.3. >>>>>>>>> However, in OM4.0, this does not work. I can see the video in the >>>>>>>>> settings, but I cannot see the video after that. >>>>>>>>> Please see the attached image. I really don't know why. It is so >>>>>>>>> strange. The port issue is solved. >>>>>>>>> So, I know the port does not cause this problem. >>>>>>>>> Do you know why? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Tom >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 2:54 AM, Maxim Solodovnik < >>>>>>>>> solomax...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hello Tom, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I'm answering emails as soon as I got free time, you shouldn't >>>>>>>>>> expect immediate answer :)) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Camera/Microphone will be started automatically as soon as you >>>>>>>>>> will set it up once >>>>>>>>>> So open the settings, choose correct devises, press Save >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> According to port availability you need to check detailed >>>>>>>>>> results: push small "Copy" button on the right, Paste result to some >>>>>>>>>> text >>>>>>>>>> file and check what is wrong >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 2:40 AM, Tom Luo <mario...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Another issue is that when I do port testing using the tool on >>>>>>>>>>> the login page. The port testing always fails even thought I opened >>>>>>>>>>> all >>>>>>>>>>> ports in my server. >>>>>>>>>>> Do you know why? Is this issue related to the camera issue? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Tom >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 2:38 PM, Tom Luo <mario...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Right now, I can see my video if I click "choose device". >>>>>>>>>>>> However, I still cannot see the video in my camera in the public >>>>>>>>>>>> conference. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The demo website does not have this problem. So, I know it must >>>>>>>>>>>> be some settings in my side. >>>>>>>>>>>> Any idea how to solve this issue? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Tom >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 1:12 PM, Tom Luo <mario...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Ok. I fixed the problem. Now I can connect using https. I will >>>>>>>>>>>>> explain to you how I fixed the problem later. >>>>>>>>>>>>> However, after I enter a public room, it seems my camera is >>>>>>>>>>>>> not working. >>>>>>>>>>>>> I remember in OM3.3. The camera automatically starts. Is there >>>>>>>>>>>>> a button I need to press in OM4.0 to start my camera? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Tom >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 12:45 PM, Maxim Solodovnik < >>>>>>>>>>>>> solomax...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm referring these instructions: http://openmeeti >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ngs.apache.org/RTMPSAndHTTPS.html >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately I have no time to check everything .... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 12:29 AM, Tom Luo <mario...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now there are some logs in red5.log >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-11-08 17:26:39,998 [NioProcessor-11] INFO >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> o.r.s.net.rtmp.RTMPMinaConnection - Connection is closed: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WNZC8FWV7N3VL >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-11-08 17:26:39,998 [NioProcessor-11] WARN >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> o.r.s.net.rtmp.RTMPMinaIoHandler - Connection was not found >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for WNZC8FWV7N3VL >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-11-08 17:26:40,007 [RTMPConnectionScheduler-5] WARN >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> o.r.server.net.rtmp.RTMPConnection - Closing O4WODAWEPAMAT, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> due to long handshake. State: connect >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-11-08 17:26:40,007 [NioProcessor-12] INFO >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> o.r.s.net.rtmp.RTMPMinaConnection - Connection is closed: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> O4WODAWEPAMAT >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-11-08 17:26:40,007 [NioProcessor-12] WARN >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> o.r.s.net.rtmp.RTMPMinaIoHandler - Connection was not found >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for O4WODAWEPAMAT >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 12:22 PM, Tom Luo <mario...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openmeetings.markmail.o >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rg/message/j4gx2q6woidyqj7l?q=letsencrypt >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is the instruction I followed. I performed step 1-8. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just skipped step 7 as you said. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't feel I miss any step. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 12:20 PM, Maxim Solodovnik < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solomax...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unfortunately not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe you miss some steps from the instructions? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 12:17 AM, Tom Luo < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mario...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes. I did SSL for the web interface and Set up Native >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RTMPS. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It still does not work. Nothing is listening at port 5443. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you have any other ideas why? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tom >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Maxim Solodovnik < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solomax...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have you performed these: http://openmeetings.apa >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> che.org/RTMPSAndHTTPS.html#SSL_for_the_web_interface >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> steps? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 11:14 PM, Tom Luo < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mario...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I cleared my old log and restarted the red5. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here is my red5.log: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-11-08 11:04:47,270 [main] INFO >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.red5.server.Launcher - Red5 Server 1.0.10 ( >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/Red5) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-11-08 11:04:47,338 [main] INFO >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> o.s.c.s.FileSystemXmlApplicationContext - Refreshing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org.springframework.context.su >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pport.FileSystemXmlApplicationContext@5f2050f6: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> startup date [Wed Nov 08 11:04:47 EST 2017]; root of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> context hierarchy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-11-08 11:04:47,393 [main] INFO >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> o.s.b.f.xml.XmlBeanDefinitionReader - Loading XML bean >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> definitions from class path resource [red5.xml] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-11-08 11:04:47,572 [main] INFO >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> o.s.b.f.xml.XmlBeanDefinitionReader - Loading XML bean >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> definitions from class path resource [jee-container.xml] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Right now, I can still use http at port 5080 to access >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OM4.0; however https still does not work. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do I need to check other places? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tom >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 10:55 AM, Maxim Solodovnik < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solomax...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> please check red5.log. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Red5 reports what ports it is listening >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ports are configured in red5.properties >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HTTP vs HTTPS is being configured in jee*.xml >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All other configuration values are in Admin->Config >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 10:53 PM, Tom Luo < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mario...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there a similar configuration file like >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> webapps/openmeetings/public/config.xml in OM4.0? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tom >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 10:52 AM, Tom Luo < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mario...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, Maxim, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I checked the more up-to-date instructions you sent. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It still lists step 7: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> webapps/openmeetings/public/config.xml| >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I understand you said this step is not necessary. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However, I tried to access mydoamin:5443/openmeetings. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just see an inaccessible error. More important, I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tried sudo netstat -plnt, but nothing is listening at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> port 5443. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of course, I started the red5 server. Do you know >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> why? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tom >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 1:52 AM, Maxim Solodovnik < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> solomax...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is email from 2016 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is not necessary to modify config.xml anymore >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> These parameters are redundant since 4.0.0 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <protocol>https</protocol> <red5httpport>5443</ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> red5httpport> <rtmpsslport>5443</rtmpsslport> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> These can be set via Admin->Config >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <useSSL>yes</useSSL> <proxyType>none</proxyType> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here is the thread with more up-to-date >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instructions: http://markmail. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org/message/ik4qdhdychl364bp (I haven't check them >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ... ) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 1:33 PM, Tom Luo < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mario...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, all, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the email: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openmeetings.markmail.o >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rg/message/hqwjnihcfb4tqxkx?q=letsencrypt >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It said we need to modify >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Edit ../webapps/openmeetings/public/config.xml >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and set >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <protocol>https</protocol> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <red5httpport>5443</red5httpport> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <rtmpsslport>5443</rtmpsslport> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <useSSL>yes</useSSL> <proxyType>none</proxyType> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However, in OM4.0, I cannot find the config.xml >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> file. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, which file should I modify? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tom >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WBR >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WBR >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WBR >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WBR >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> WBR >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> WBR >>>>>>>>>> Maxim aka solomax >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> WBR >>>> Maxim aka solomax >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> WBR >>> Maxim aka solomax >>> >> >> > > > -- > WBR > Maxim aka solomax >